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AIBU to think my baby girl (8) may have ADHD or a form of it?

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BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 20:26

Sorry not to post in children's health, I really would like this to be seen.

My daughter has always been active, never sitting still for two minutes, on the go. We get so frustrated trying to talk to her as she bounces about all over the place, hops, wriggles a leg...something. Always always moving. At the table we're hot on table manners but she can't sit still. She moves to the side of the chair, to the edge, back to the back, turns round, legs up, legs down. She will eat her dinner but argh she's a fidget.

We encourage things like mad half hours (just a crazy run around), she's active (dancing, cycling, running (generally), good with walking, frequent swimming).

When we keep on at her to keep still, she really does try but something has to be moving, or she's running/jumping about.

Watching tv she won't sit still and has only ever sat through a handful of films (that was due to the popcorn more than anything else) as she loses interest.

Her mind is amazing. Her imagination is astounding and her reading/writing level is almost two years above average so she's been able to concentrate enough to learn at school. Although the teacher says she gets so excited about a task she rarely waits for the instruction to end before she's off trying to complete it because her mind is already spinning with ideas, so she often does the wrong thing to begin with.

We used to say she was hyperactive, a ball of energy. We mentioned it to her paediatrician once (who she sees because of skin issues) who told us to wait until she got older. She was about 4/5 at the time.

The ONLY thing that stops her moving about is minecraft. She's on the iPad playing it whenever she can. We limit the time but sadly it usually results in emotional outbursts. She is absorbed into it. She talks about it all the time, she's a big chatterbox and doesn't stop often! We allow 2 hours on a weekend day and 45 minutes on a week day. It seems a lot to me but she cries and throws these odd emotional outbursts if we tell her to finish it sooner than that length of time. When she's not playing it, she's watching videos about it, doing the Lego, reading the books/magazines and thinking about it.

There are other interests, but it takes a good bit of effort to divert her attention away from minecraft first.

Like I mentioned she talks at 100 miles an hour, all day long! Unless she's on her game.

She's our eldest child, I don't know if it's a normal 8 year old behaviour or not.

Can anyone just advise either way please?

I really am reluctant to think this way but I can't help it now. I don't like to jump into thinking it's adhd just because it's in the media and so discussed these days. Which is why I've maybe left it so long.

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BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 21:09

CherryPits She has her most important, must-share ideas and information between 9-11pm!

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BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 21:10

Aw JaneyMoo I know. She's my baby though. ;)

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mathanxiety · 28/12/2015 21:11

What about maths? Does she have the patience to work at something that doesn't have an exciting plot?

Is there any black and white thinking? i.e. you say she can do minecraft for 45 mins but something comes up requiring the time to be cut short, and she jumps off the deep end can she appreciate why the change of plans? Can she slot new priorities into her mental timetable?

BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 21:11

JacksterBear thanks I'll look into that. I haven't come across it before.

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blobbityblob · 28/12/2015 21:12

I think it's normal for some. My dd is like this. I did wonder about adhd aged 6 but now aged 10, pretty sure she's just got more energy than others. She's definitely getting more controlled over time. But will probably always be one of those who can't sit still for v long (much like my dsis aged 50). Very imaginative, talks ten to the dozen, doesn't look like she's listening but does well at school. Even now she spends a great deal of time being active - she'll pace from front door to lounge repeatedly when she gets in from school. If there are no actual problems I wouldn't worry. A very experienced year 1 teacher told me some are just like this.

Janeymoo50 · 28/12/2015 21:14

I know dragons, sorry. Good luck.

hiddenhome2 · 28/12/2015 21:14

There's a lot more to adhd than being physically active and having a lot of energy.

mathanxiety · 28/12/2015 21:14

Get her a notebook for ideas that occur between 9 and 11 pm. Or a tablet so she can type them. See if she can cope with that.

What happens if you ask for a break in the endless chatter during the day?

Jacksterbear · 28/12/2015 21:17

This is quite a good explanation of SPD, with s symptoms checklist: link

superbaghag · 28/12/2015 21:19

My beautiful 8 year old sounds much like yours and add in sensory traits, impulse control issues and a genuine hate of not liking being touched. We were referred to paediatrician who performed battery of assessments including SALT, questionnaires to home and school etc and at our final appointment said he has traits of x, z ad y but nothing is severe enough to be labelled as anything so sorry you are on your own even though through no fault or desire to he is having huge impact on us all. Consultant suggested pushing for Ed psych to get help on how best to help him at school.

Frustrating. It took a long time for us to come to an emotional place where we were ready to accept help and a diagnosis to be told he has 75% of 4 different problems but needs 90% in one.

Youarentkiddingme · 28/12/2015 21:22

There is more to adhd than being physically unable to stay still. It's a lot about impulsiveness as well. I do know to get an ADHD diagnosis it has to present in more than one setting.

Having said that you obsiously have concerns and I believe in parents instinct. Have you looked at the broad range of neuro diverse diagnosises?

Children with sensory processing difficulties and asd often present different at school than home because they 'mask' - especially those that have a higher than average IQ alongside it.

That is a very broad generalisation but hopefully will assist you to look beyond a specific diagnosis and more at her individual behaviours that set her aside from her peers.

The out of synch child book is highly recommended.

Fwiw my DS has ASD. He's very hyperactive (except when on minecraft!) and his mind is always racing because he's focussing on his version of what's being said rather than listening to the actual instructions iyswim?

Fingeronthebutton · 28/12/2015 21:30

Someone mentioned over stimulation. One of the names it goes under is sensory disorder. These children hear/smell/ see/ even touch things different to us. My grandson had/has it. I say had/has because he is 9 now and things are a lot better. Do some reading on it before you go down the drug route.
Is her skin condition something to do with it.

Mistigri · 28/12/2015 21:33

I would have a chat with her teacher. Most children with ADHD struggle at school, but very bright kids can compensate for their attention problems, at least in primary. However her teacher should be able to tell you whether her behaviour is objectively out of line with what one would expect from an 8 year old.

TBH it does sound like there might be an issue ... but only a specialist will be able to tell you for sure, and whether or not you seek a diagnosis may depend on to what extent the school thinks the hyperactivity is having an educational impact.

My oldest was a very hyperactive child ... Constant comments from school, difficulty focussing on anything at home with the exception of reading (she was a hugely profilic reader), and a lot of very impulsive and oppositional behaviour (to the extent of putting herself in serious danger). I suspect she would have got an ADHD diagnosis if we'd sought one, but we delayed doing so because she is bright and her school results remained good. Fast forward a few years, she's now 14 and a completely different person ... She has calmed down a lot, has no real issues with attention/ concentration, her school results are excellent and she has significantly fewer behavioural issues.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 28/12/2015 21:37

OP I'd look into her diet, something could be really aggravating her!

CrohnicallyAspie · 28/12/2015 21:41

Good point about the diet- I am sensitive to certain colourings/flavourings and they have an impact on my behaviour.

theycallmemellojello · 28/12/2015 21:50

I'm not really sure what the problem is here - if she is doing well in school, and is active, and can concentrate on reading/ipad/videos/minecraft and above all is happy then what's the problem? Perhaps there are problems beyond what I'm seeing here in the OP - but as far as I can tell, the only problem is that her parents get pissed off because she fidgets and talks too much and has bad table manners. I bet that if you went to enough doctors you could find someone who would give your DD a label and prescribe her some drugs. But to me it would be unethical to medicalise a perfectly happy and functional child in this way. If it was me I'd wait til she was older and could consent to any treatments - you're talking about giving her drugs to change her personality after all, and to me, that's something I'd only want to do if there was a clearly discernible problem affecting quality of life (ie the girl's quality of life) that the drug would cure. Perhaps there is something in this situation, but I'm not seeing it.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 28/12/2015 21:50

Aspie same with Ds! We have to be careful what he eats otherwise he can run around all day long like OP's DDHmm
I think certain foods inflame the gut and can lead to all sort of strange behaviours

BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 21:57

Wow theycallme - who mentioned drugs? I didn't. I'd want to avoid that at all costs, I'd try a holistic, more natural approach.

How rude!

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junebirthdaygirl · 28/12/2015 21:59

Did she have a difficult birth? Was she in a neo natal unit? Often children who were premature or experience a traumatic birth have difficulties being still. I find as a teacher there is often a birth story with children with these difficulties.

theycallmemellojello · 28/12/2015 22:00

Ok - but I don't think there's anything rude about assuming you were thinking about going down the medical route. You don't need a DSM-V label for a "holistic and natural approach".

BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 22:06

I don't want a label, did you read my entire post? This question has been put off for a few years for that very reason.

Thanks for the mention of additives, we try to keep them down but this time of year they're obviously plentiful.

Interesting information too about sensory processing, she does have to constantly, constantly fiddle.

Also thank you for sharing your experiences, it's so much appreciated.

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BloodyEnderDragons · 28/12/2015 22:07

JuneBirthday oh how interesting, yes it wasn't the smoothest of births.

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Youarentkiddingme · 28/12/2015 22:09

theycallme the OP has at no point mentioned drugs or medication. Just asked if her thoughts re her DD being neuro diverse were correct or if it's standard 8yo behaviour.
My DS has a DSM-V diagnosis. It is a medical diagnosis but that doesn't mean it's treated with medication.
In fact the only thing he's ever taken that's related to his dx is melatonin - and he had that before he was diagnosed.
And I'm actually currently researching a natural approach to his sleeping (magnesium) and do take a holistic approach to his additional needs.

AnotherTimeMaybe · 28/12/2015 22:15

OP I didn't mean just additives, although yes they'd definitely aggravate her. What usually makes some kids hyper is wheat gluten soya dairy corn etc
You could do a test by being extra careful for a week and then see how it goes.. My ds1 couldn't sit down for more than 15 seconds and now he's focusing on something for more than 30 mins without running around ... Some children are just bit more sensitive

boodles · 28/12/2015 22:22

I questioned getting my son diagnosed as ADHD as he is also bright etc. The school were the ones mentioning it to me as they felt it would help him. He has been diagnosed about a year now, no medication (although offered every time we see someone) we did it in the hope that it will help him as he goes into senior school, they will hopefully recognise that what is does is the ADHD and that he isn't just written off as a naughty child.

It has also helped us understand him more and he also, I think, feels happier in himself as he can understand himself and the ADHD, if you see what I mean.

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