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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To say actually having children at Christmas does not make it a 'magical' time?

78 replies

GlitteringJasper · 28/12/2015 10:03

I'm not going to win Mother of the Year, ever, but definitely not for this post I know.

I've a 1 and 2.11 year old and while there have been some nice elements of Christmas actually there were none most of it was flipping horrendous and hard work.

Not helped by the fact that I've had 6 weeks of them being sick with one thing and another. Both of them have horrendous coughs, no treatment required according to GP, but I'm getting no sleep as I'm worrying about them coughing in their sleep and choking.

AIBU to say I miss my old Christmases? The ones where I could watch what I wanted on to, eat and drink what I wanted, lounge about?

Christmas Day was all about dragging my two to grandparents, they were raging as we were late and after it all my son wouldn't eat anything anyway as he wasn't feeling well.

Particularly my eldest child I find needs constant entertaining, never happy to sot and play by himself, he is extremely demanding. Both dh and I feel we never get a minutes peace.

So for us Christmas was just another day with all this pressure to make it magical and truth be told it was just another day.

I love my little children dearly but they are hard, hard work, harder than I ever anticipated. AIBU?

Does it get easier when they are older?!

OP posts:
JoandMax · 28/12/2015 11:08

Christmas is such hardwork when they're tiny! Overtired, overwhelmed and ratty.....

DH was very very determined that until the youngest was 4 we would not travel anywhere for Christmas, people were welcome to come to us but there was no persuading him to leave the house! Although I was initially a bit opposed it really did work well, kids are in their own homes and beds and keeps them calmer.

This year they were 5 and 7 and it was our first Xmas away at the in-laws and it was brilliant, they're old enough to cope with late nights, different meal times and pretty much spent all of the day playing with the other children there leaving us adults to sit, chat, eat and get merry!

It will get easier soon

TyrannosaurusBex · 28/12/2015 11:10

I'm so, so guilty of trying to stage-manage a Hollywood ideal of a magical Christmas. But when the magic does happen (and it does) it's completely random things that conjure it.

Doesn't stop me planning and fretting, though.

mintoil · 28/12/2015 11:22

I agree with PP that dragging your DC around grandparents on Christmas Day is a recipe for disaster. I never did it. As soon as I had DC, I was the matriarch and I stayed put on Christmas Day.

We had parties for "the cousins", aunties, uncles, PILS on Christmas Eve or just before and sometimes I was too busy to go and DH had to take them

Try staying home next year, it will make it all so much easier.

Hygge · 28/12/2015 11:25

You are not being unreasonable because it sounds like you've had a terrible time for quite a few weeks now.

Younger ones don't really get Christmas anyway.

I'd say that the first time anything 'magical' happened at Christmas with our DS was the Christmas just before he turned three, when we decorated the tree after he had gone to bed and in the morning he was so surprised to see it he just sat in the doorway saying "wow...wow!" for ages.

That's not the say that the whole thing from start to finish was magical. We don't live in Hogwarts, we still had all the usual non-magical crap to contend with as well Xmas Grin I find that you have to pick your 'magical' moments, and usually the best ones are also the most simple.

In my experience it does get easier.

As they get older they get to understand it more, and their excitement is lovely. I love watching DS get all shy when he sees Father Christmas, and now he's old enough to help with the tree thats lovely as well. And we do little things like go out in the dark to spot Christmas lights and things.

And we always find a nice day (doesn't matter if it's cold as long as it's not raining) to do our 'mince pie picnic' in the local woods, which is basically just a walk with a flask of hot chocolate and a mince pie each in a sandwich box. It gets everyone out in the fresh air, DS runs off some energy and excitement, and it's one of the things he really enjoys about Christmas that isn't all about presents or money being spent.

But I think the trick is not to try and do too much. Don't put too much pressure on yourself to make every single moment of every day magical.

For example, all this Elf on a Shelf stuff seems like too much hard work to me, too much effort and pressure for little result in our house.

But we did happen to accidentally bump into Father Christmas three times while out and about doing general errands (once in Sainsbury's, once in Morrison's, and once in the town centre) all quite by chance but DS was really impressed and confided in me that he thought this was how Father Christmas knows if you are being good.

There's nothing wrong with Elf on a Shelf if it works for you, but it wouldn't work for us. We do other things that do work better for us.

Just make a couple of traditions that do work for you, don't try and do everything that everyone else is doing, and don't drag the kids about when they are ill to please grandparents who don't understand and bitch at you.

I work odd shifts, and DH works away in the week. We have had to prioritise ourselves this year because we've found that other people are constantly making demands on our time and then letting us down.

We've had friend's cancel with an hour's notice this year, leaving our DS disappointed. They are friends who don't work and have no children, yet apparently the whole of December other than one particular day was fully booked up for them.

We agreed to the one day they could fit us in and then they cancelled with an hour to go because they "didn't feel like seeing anyone" We've tried twice to rearrange and both times they've refused, once because he was planning to be recovering from a hangover on the day we suggested, and once because they like to spend that day alone. We will not be trying to arrange anything else with them.

We've had relatives turn up two or three hours later than we'd arranged, one not really at fault as they had been held up by someone else, one who could have come on time but chose not to because it suited her better to come later.

It's too much, when you're trying to fit your own plans in around other people and your shifts at work. I won't be prioritising these people next year when it comes to making arrangements.

I suggest you do the same, put the children first, especially if they are not well, tell your relatives you are having a low-key Christmas, find a couple of traditions that work for you and do those, and don't worry about every single moment being magical.

merrymouse · 28/12/2015 11:31

I agree that as your children get older you work out the traditions that are important and work for you and don't feel the pressure to do everything that everyone else is doing.

PurpleTreeFrog · 28/12/2015 11:39

It's the little things that make it magical. At this age they're babies really, rather than children. So I don't think you can write off the magic of Christmas at this stage - wait until they're a bit older!

You can just make it a fairly normal day for them at that age, with just a few 'special' things to make it feel fun, it's more for you at this age than it is for them. Another trick to make it a nice time without overwhelming them it to spread out the festive celebrations a bit. E.g. a visit to Santa in the weeks before, making christmas cards in the weeks before ("making" at this age = messily playing with glue and paper and sequins and mummy helping to assemble them into something vaguely resembling a Christmas card), having a nice family meal on Christmas day, wearing a cute outfit (just for the photos really), wrapping up warm for a wintery walk, opening a few presents - if they have too many, they don't have to all be opened on Christmas day, you can spread it out over the week. Meanwhile they can play with some of their new things and you can try and have a 5 min sit down with a glass of wine! I think it can still be special but it doesn't have to be a "proper" kids christmas at that age as they just don't get it!

We have a 1.5 year old and will have a mini Christmas tomorrow with a cold buffet lunch and some more presents, as we are seeing my parents (we've been away visiting in laws this year) , a spread out Christmas is more relaxed.

It doesn't have to tick all the boxes at this age. You don't need to do elf on the shelf, christmas eve movies, 100 presents at 6am, full turkey dinner, long day with 20 relatives etc. It's just too much for toddlers. It's not magical when parents are stresssing out trying to manufacture a big magical day...

Toddlers are delighted enough with a muddy walk outside, a couple of new toys, and being allowed biscuits for dinner!

SinisterBumFacedCat · 28/12/2015 11:40

Yanbu but it does get better. DS is 5 now and loving it.

I think the same applies to holidays, all the camping trips we've been on and I spent half the time baffled at why I wasn't enjoying it. You expect holidays with kids to be like those from your own childhood. But your parents aren't there to do the hard work, you can't just flit off spontaneously to wander round a city like you did pre-children. It's basically doing exactly the same work as at home but in a different environment without any convenience.

Gutterflower · 28/12/2015 11:40

It does get easier.
My dd is 8 and my ds is 5 and this year me and my husband have both seen a huge shift for the better. Everything was far less stressful, there were fewer arguments with the kids and on the whole things were far more enjoyable. Hang in the OP, you will get there

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 28/12/2015 11:44

op its their age!!

what a nightmare!

of course its not going to be fun, they hardly know whats going on and need intense - grinding looking after.

i reckon xmas 2017 is going be the start of better things to come for you Xmas Grin when they need slightly less intensive work and they understand more of whats going on.

hang in there it gets slightly better

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 28/12/2015 11:48

I won't be prioritising these people next year when it comes to making arrangements

same here far too much with small dc.

FelicityFunknickle · 28/12/2015 11:54

Never, ever take small children to other people's houses at Christmas ever
That is my personal rule.

NoSquirrels · 28/12/2015 12:04

It absolutely does get better and more magical, OP.

When I was pregnant with DC2, and toddler DC1 got norovirus on the 23rd, manifesting in the car on the way to the relations, so we entered with a vomit-covered child with a leaky nappy who was then poorly for 2 days, recovered (a bit) by 25th and then I caught it as well as her GPs on 26th, now that was a nadir. Shit and puke do not enhance the magic, I find.

But this year, despite lingering illnesses and imperfections, it really has been lovely. There's still a lot of work, but it is worth it. You'll see the magic soon in years to come and you'll love it too, I promise.

Strokethefurrywall · 28/12/2015 12:29

Nah, far more magical when they get older. This year has been the first where watching DS1 get excited has been lovely - he's just 4.
DS2 is only 21 months so he still doesn't quite get it but I anticipate by Xmas 2017 when they're 6 and 3 1/2 it'll be excitement in droves.
I also had quite a nice Xmas this year despite the fact that husband was struck down with flu on Xmas eve and didn't make it out of bed until yesterday evening.
I put it down to not having to cook, seriously! No pressure to prep veg, peel potatoes. I took the kids to champagne brunch with friends which was fabulous and even though stupid expensive, it was no more than we would have spent getting the meat and all the trimmings plus booze at home. We're doing it again next year for sure, I definitely found it magical!

icanteven · 28/12/2015 12:51

Christmas was dreadful this year. We had fun - it wasn't an unmitigated failure by any stretch, but OMG I nearly put our nearly 7 year old out with the recycling this morning. I love her but she has been a PAIN.

The weather doesn't help.

Next year we're going somewhere hot and having "Christmas" on the beach.

steppemum · 28/12/2015 13:46

mine are 13, 10 and 8.

Christmas was fab, they even coped with very little sleep as they are old enough to understand.

when they are babies, we really just continued routine as normal with a tree and presents thrown in. My lovely parents even bent over backwards to get Christmas lunch on the table at 12:30 when they were all toddlers, as toddlers don't do 3pm dinner.

steppemum · 28/12/2015 13:52

and for years now we have all done the 'Christmas morning in their own beds' rule.

Then we drive to one house for lunch. But it helps that we live 1 hours drive away max.

But no traipsing round relatives with small children

ThatsNotMyHouseItIsTooClean · 28/12/2015 17:24

DD is 6 and DS is 3.5 and I enjoyed Christmas this year. They were so excited in the run up, we're thrilled with their presents and have spent a lot of time playing together with them and other time has been spent with us all playing games together as DS has suddenly "got" (well, has for 90% of the time) turn taking etc.
However, when child free DBro & SIL turned up yesterday & told us about Xmas Eve in the pub, lazy Xmas Day morning before having friends around & spending Boxing Day watching films & reading new books, I almost went green with envy. I have three books which I am desperate to get my teeth into buy daren't as I will be so disappointed not to have a chance to finish them@

megletthesecond · 28/12/2015 17:27

Yanbu. It becomes bearable once they're 5/6.

pourmeanotherglass · 28/12/2015 17:33

It does get easier. I think the time I was most exhausted was when mine were around 1 and 3. It started to get easier when the little one was big enough for them to play together sometimes, maybe around age 2 and 4. They are now 11 and 13, and really good fun to have around.

mrtwitsglasseye · 28/12/2015 18:45

It sounds as though you're trying to fit your young dc into a grown up Christmas rather than relaxing and letting the time revolve around them. You might all have a better time if you changed expectations a bit and focus on enjoying the dc.

MiaowTheCat · 28/12/2015 19:35

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mrsmugoo · 28/12/2015 19:53

I don't know...I started to get bored with a room full of adults buying each other nice but essentially pointless things and eating and drinking to excess.

Two toddler cousins in the house this year and I'm pregnant. It was absolute bedlam, I've averaged 5 hours sleep a night and the house is a bomb site but seeing them have so much fun had been wonderful and I wouldn't go back.

HungryHorace · 28/12/2015 20:07

We have a 1.5 and 2.6 year old and it's been relentless this past week or so what with a grim virus, teething and lack of sleep due to buggered timings. We just keep telling ourselves that in a year or so it'll start to get easier as DS is less reliant on us and they play together a touch more (and hopefully DD stops bloody shoving and kicking poor DS when he goes near her!).

DD half got Christmas this year, but I think she was a bit bewildered by it all too. I'm another one saying bring on Christmas 2017!

Flossieflower01 · 28/12/2015 20:09

The thing is that Christmas will change every year as the children get older and you have to work with the stage they are at- unlike my inlaws who seem to have an idealised vision of their children's Christmases that they want to recreate every year- but the vision is an overall memory rather than recognising that toddlers and babies are very different to primary age children who again are very different to teenagers!

Be kind to yourself- each age has its "magic" as well as it's challenges!!

hellswelshy · 28/12/2015 20:19

You re definitely not bu! When my twin dd's were small, the first few Christmases were hard work, and the first one when they didn't nap which meant we couldn't nap were, ahem, emotional Shock

But now they are 7 and this year was brilliant! They were excited, enthralled and loved every minute from dressing the tree to New Christmas eve pjs to pulling crackers! It will get easier and loads more fun PROMISE Xmas Smile