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Do you have punishment for swearing?

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usernamesandgingerbreads · 23/12/2015 13:14

DD (13) has just screamed that someone on tv stealing a goose on a Christmas film is a massive cunt Blush
My Dad will go beserk if he hears her swear.

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usual · 23/12/2015 14:50

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freezingmog · 23/12/2015 14:52

Kids need to know there is a time and a place.

And no I wouldn't punish, but I don't use punishment.

TheBunnyOfDoom · 23/12/2015 14:53

I think swearing in general (i.e. not aimed at anyone) is fine, but swearing AT someone isn't acceptable. So, saying "I fucking hate spinach" is fine but "I fucking hate you for feeding me spinach" is not.

I also think that, at 13, she should know not to swear around young children or grandparents.

gamerchick · 23/12/2015 15:02

I was thinking of Malcolm in the middle as well. I think it would be quite effective Grin

TimeToMuskUp · 23/12/2015 15:09

I don't think I'd punish, but would remind that it's not ok to use that word in our home. I'd also have a conversation about why it's absolutely never ok to swear in front of unknown adults or elderly relatives.

DS1 had a mate to tea recently (they're both 10), finished his before his mate, asked if he could leave the table and when I said no, replied "fuckit". I've no idea what made him think it'd be ok, but rather than make a massive shouty deal of it I just said "get out of the kitchen, sit yourself on the time out step and come back when you're ready to not use language like that". He's never used it since. Going batshit often has the reverse effect on my DCs so I tend not to use my shouty-voice unless I've PMT.

Hotpatootietimewarp · 23/12/2015 15:16

Hm I shouted out the window that I was going to f tell on her and my mother heard me, last time I ever swore in front of her or my dad, I was about 9 at the time I think she went mental! To this day I still don't swear in front of parents, in laws, or my children. DH on other hand I hear him swearing in front of his parents and it makes me cringe.

I will not abide by swearing in this house and there will be sanctions when it does happen. Especially that word, that is a vulgar word there are other words that can be used but that one is awful

Hotpatootietimewarp · 23/12/2015 15:17

It was my sister I shouted that at sorry I thought I'd put that in

rainbowstardrops · 23/12/2015 15:24

I still to this day, don't say anything more than 'bloody' in front of my dad because we just knew we weren't to swear at home.
Ds (15) is swearing more and more at home despite me asking him to save that language for his friends.
I've told him next time I hear it I'll take his phone away Grin
Bit hypocritical because I swear way too much.
I'm an adult though Wink

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DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 23/12/2015 16:25

I've had "discussions" with the teen SmallDragons about when it is appropriate to swear. Basically, they don't swear in front of me and other adults, they definitely don't swear in front of teachers and they absolutely positively never ever EVER swear in front of my parents.

I have punished DS1 for swearing at me when he was angry or swearing at his brother in anger. I have simply shouted "I heard that!" when they swear at their friends what playing games online.

Crazypetlady · 23/12/2015 16:34

My family swear a lot it's normal. Never swore in front of them until I was 16 though and no swearing in front of young children. Sometimes kids slip up and swear, when ds is older if he swears at me in anger very occasionally and regrets it fine. I disaprove but not the end of the world. If he swears at me over something small or really badly then I would discipline him further. Kids often swear at school and sometimes they bring it home but I would always correct him if it was in conversation or at me it would just depend on the circumstances too.

I hate it when children swear though so I would never let it be part of his usual vocabulary.

I do think your dd was unintentionally funny in this case o.p.

nooka · 23/12/2015 16:46

My parents never swore. The absolutely worse word that was permissible, and only for fairly exceptional circumstances was 'damn'. We didn't even use substitutes like 'sugar' for 'shit', and we never ever blasphemed.

Of course I swore a fair bit away from home! dh's family are much more relaxed, and we are probably way too relaxed with our children, who at 15 and 16 have what they call 'f word privileges'.

They are supposed to know who they can and can't swear in front of (we practice before visiting my mum!) but when recently visiting my sister ds told me 'not to steal his fucking tea' (I had to be fair just stolen his tea) and she was horrified! I felt like a bad mum :)

When they were younger I just told them off with a pointed 'language'. If they are rude they get punished but otherwise I don't really care, and in the OP's position I'd either say 'oy, none of that' at the time or have a chat with her afterward as to why 'cunt' is problematic. Or both.

pointysettia · 23/12/2015 17:43

Swearing at people = punishment
Swearing in general = depends on context. At tv is OK, when guests are around it usually reaps an 'Ahem'.
Swearing at school in presence of teachers = agreement with sanctions imposed by school, no sympathy

I can't remember the last time DDs swore in inappropriate situations, so the tactic seems to be working.

CherryPits · 23/12/2015 17:45

Its a horrible word, I don't know what I'd do.
Normally if they say something like "oh bollocks" I tend to laugh. Blush

TaliZorah · 23/12/2015 17:46

I've never had a problem with swearing, don't think I'd punish DS for it, would just make sure he knew it's not appropriate in certain settings.

maybebabybee · 23/12/2015 17:50

If DC swear we just tell them those are words for adults, not children.

I don't have a problem with swearing at all (tbh it kind of baffles me that people go so OTT about it) but I respect the fact that other people don't want their DC to hear swearing.

I swear like a trooper myself so I can't exactly stop them forever.

TaliZorah · 23/12/2015 17:52

maybe I don't get the reactions to swearing either. I love a good swear Grin

PurpleThermalsNowItsWinter · 23/12/2015 17:55

We don't have any punishments. There's a time and a place for appropriate language depending upon surroundings and company (so work, friends etc - ok the swear, with his younger cousins, grandma - never ok). That's dn who is 17yrs. My much younger DC know naughty words and we are not really allowed to use them).
But, it's not your dad's business. You're the parent.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 23/12/2015 18:01

As a Hungarian I never understood why cunt is s7ch a horrible word but dick is ok -ish.
It's just a word. Either people swear and than it doesn't matter anyway what the words are or they don't so then why is this one soooi much worse?

I cunt understand that

I swear. I like a good cunting twatting rant.
I don't like my kids do it though. I tell them not to and if that makes me a hypocrite I don't give a fuck because they also not allowed to drive, have sex, vote or get drunk just yet.

freezingmog · 23/12/2015 18:02

purple- you never punish? For anything?

freezingmog · 23/12/2015 18:08

"ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba"

You say you don't understand, but you must be aware that some words are considered less polite or offensive than others.

A 3 year old talking about a wee wee is almost cute, but talking of having a piss may raise some eyebrows.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 23/12/2015 18:24

Of course I get that. But we are talking about swearing. Dickhead, arsehole, twat, cunt etc - they all bad. Why is the c word so much worse?
I'm guessing just because
Xmas Grin

Idefix · 23/12/2015 18:25

No punishment in our house but as GDP said up thread I do insist on choice of word being appropriate to context.
I think knowing who not to swear in front of is also a vital element in my parenting book Grin

freezingmog · 23/12/2015 18:29

zing, but it is a sliding scale.

Some swear words are considered worse than others.

A child could say "bloody" or "fuck". Both are swearing, but one is worse than the other.

Neither should be said in front of a teacher.

TaliZorah · 23/12/2015 18:32

mog my teachers used to swear! Once we were 16ish it was deemed okay