Social housing and Syrian Refugees

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Controversial one. A memo has gone out from the local council to local residents, asking whether anyone has a property they can offer for Syrian refugees, housing benefit will be paid as well as a premium and money to hold the property until it is occupied, money for decorating and repairing the property etc.

Aibu to find it ridiculous that basically the council will be housing refugees who have been flown around the world ahead of people already on the waiting list for social housing? Also, there are homeless people who I see every day, living in the park and under a car park bridge but they aren't getting this same help (the memo mentions the social and medical help the refugees will also be given).

I'm not sure what Christmas has got to do with anything?

I could weep. And I'm not even Christian.

Aprilanne he probably wanted to let people know he had survived.

Good grief. Imagine resenting someone for having a mobile phone when they are fleeing war.

I cringe?

I've worked in and seen first-hand the difficulties faced by many people from the Indian sub-continent have had in not only living in this country, but in the sharp contrast between cultural practices in rural Pakistan and Bangladesh and the laws and culture of this country.
And yes, it's usually the men that tend to want to hold on to the power they had, and the rules that they enforced in their own homes that struggle the most and have the most anger when challenged.

I know. I genuinely don't understand why people think that a Syrian doctor fleeing a war would have been destitute - or that you have to be in shocking poverty to leave a brutal warzone.

It's bizarre.

He had his mobile but forgot his wife and kids.. Mmm

Most of the people that leave a warzone first tend to be the people with the resources to do so, and Syria had a huge number of wealthy, educated professionals.

sorry fanjo but no everyone is fleeing war some are not even from syria they just jump on the bandwagon .and why is there a hell of a lot more men than woman and children .

You forgot to explain who 'us', the poor put up on who have to do everything and who are the real victims here, are, Regina.

Regina..you have no idea where her wife and kids were..or if he had any.

Your post is just sheer bigotry.

Yep, it's been widely reported that a seat on a boat cost the people thousands of dollars

Because a lot of women and children drown, sadly.

So what if they had to pay to escape war. So would you.

The attitudes of some people on this thread are appalling.

so the men saved themselves and let there family drown charming

London is not fucking full. What it is full of is empty investment properties owned by super rich foreigners taking advantage of our very low taxes. They are the migrants who should be kicked out.

There are currently more Syrian refugees living in Istanbul than in the whole of Europe. That is one city. Refugees there are not allowed to work. Most have been waiting for a safe opportunity to go home, and they are still waiting nearly five years on. What should they do?

Most people in this situation would find somewhere new to start again. And you would head to the nearest country where you have some links or speak the language. For many that is the UK or France or Germany. Hungary won't even let them in. There are certainly no work opportunities inGreece which is basically bankrupt.

And yes, we are responsible for the mess that is the Middle East. Churchill and his bloody lines in the sand are ultimately what created the resentment and anger that has fuelled the likes of ISIS. We need to step up here and help the people fleeing from these psychopaths.

They are being given priority over those already on the social list and homeless etc as presumably a landlord wanting to let a property to refugees would also be happy to let it socially if the offer from the council was the same? There is a shortage of property in London.

April I'm not even going to talk to you.

You aren't worth it.

refugees are quite intimidadating too

what, all of them, that you've talked to? The kids too?
utter complete bollocks.

pity that people meet a couple of vulnerable people that are intimidating and decide that that must be the case for everyone of their ethnicity, then talk to others & get it spread as a rumour on one of the biggest online forums in the UK, a host country. Really humane and openminded.

I was just in Berlin and didn't see any refugees recognisable as such. Saw a few in the Netherlands in September and they were, shock, just like anyone else. I was not intimidated.

as for the OP's question, simple, do you have nationalist tendencies or not? Who should be prioritised?

the refugees here are forming ghetto type places that are becoming harder to police

Where is "here" and what is your evidence for this?

I loved this viral tweet:

"I don't understand how possessing a cellphone makes someone a less convincing refugee. They're fleeing war, not visiting from 18th century."

My uncle has had quite a bit of direct contact with them in NL and says that the problem is language and the fact that sometimes they are really really ill and haven't had treatment in a long time. He didn't mention anything else.

Or because you send the fittest, most capable person ahead and when they arrive, they hope to organise an escape for the rest of the family.
Accepting refugees is a long-term plan, it's like all those dog shelter adverts
'A dog is for life, not just for Christmas'

These are people in all their infinite variety, and just as if millions in the UK became refugees, not everyone would be grateful, accepting of whatever scraps are given them. The paternalistic response doesn't work out in the long term, the help and support needs to be grounded in reality and done with clear sight. Properly resourced.

The Germans are housing the refugees in old British Army camps which are becoming like little cities, that's the scary part

fanjo how very mature when someone has a different view point .

No I just don't waste my energy talking to ignorant racist bigots.

when an overfilled boat capsizes, and the people in it then are cast, thrashing madly into the sea

When they may be wearing layers of clothes which sodden, drag them down

Who may not have had aqua babies classes

Whose ticket for the boat may have included a cheap, poorly made life jacket, or none at all

Then those who are weaker, smaller, more exhausted die. How do you locate the cries of your child in the dark, in that chaos

I wouldn't wish this on anyone. That it is being used as some kind of evidence against survivors is disgusting