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Social housing and Syrian Refugees

365 replies

Plentymoresharks · 23/12/2015 08:20

Controversial one. A memo has gone out from the local council to local residents, asking whether anyone has a property they can offer for Syrian refugees, housing benefit will be paid as well as a premium and money to hold the property until it is occupied, money for decorating and repairing the property etc.

Aibu to find it ridiculous that basically the council will be housing refugees who have been flown around the world ahead of people already on the waiting list for social housing? Also, there are homeless people who I see every day, living in the park and under a car park bridge but they aren't getting this same help (the memo mentions the social and medical help the refugees will also be given).

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maxxytoe · 23/12/2015 08:39

Then why don't you educate the 'misinformed'
What's the point of even posting if you're not going to explain your point of view Hmm

PinkFondantFancy · 23/12/2015 08:40

Exactly plenty.

fakenamefornow · 23/12/2015 08:40

As an aside, I have a house coming up for rent. I have absolute nightmare tenants I need to get out first. I might contact them about it.

maxxytoe · 23/12/2015 08:40

Nobody has said send them back ? [confused

It obviously doesn't make sense to house them in the most expensive part of the country

Dinobab · 23/12/2015 08:40

YANBU to be annoyed with the lack of housing help for homeless people in this country but YABU to think refugees shouldn't be housed.
Also, most people saying this didn't give two i about the homeless crisis before they could use it as an anti refugee argument.

RJnomore1 · 23/12/2015 08:41

I answered a question. It's the Internet, unlike my real life, both professionally personally and as s volunteer, I don't feel a need to type anything other than want I want to.

Ladycrazycat · 23/12/2015 08:41

I think YABU.

As an aside, a friend of mine, until recently, worked for a homeless charity in London. The vast majority of those who they helped were not UK born and bred - the majority were from other European countries or further afield. So it's a myth if you think that those on the streets are all UK citizens- many aren't.

Beyond the fact that I do think we have a moral obligation to help those fleeing war (including providing housing), if we don't help those who have nothing then people (regardless of where they are from) have no choice but to turn to crime to survive which would make the country more unsafe. There's also the issue of integration and not making those from other countries second class citizens by refusing to help them. Not only do I see that as morally wrong, but it also won't do the country any good in the long run.

ReginaBlitz · 23/12/2015 08:42

Yanbu! There is already 1000's of British families that have been living in hostels for months even years they don't do a campaign like this for them. I do feel sorry for the refugees but why is it down to us all the time? There is also a shortage of larger council properties the majority of 4+ bed houses are taken up by people like this that come over and have about ten kids. If this makes me sound uncaring then so be it but People need to wake up it's an issue.

Pepperpot99 · 23/12/2015 08:42

'Charity begins at home'.

Why? what does this mean? that we will only help people from other countries when our own has attained Utopian status? what rubbish.

Of course Syrian refugees should be helped - especially since the UK is now actively involved in a bombing campaign in their homeland.

CuttedUpPear · 23/12/2015 08:44

You are talking about private renting.
NOT social housing.

Stirring up a shitstorm with your lazy and inaccurate thread title.

bodenbiscuit · 23/12/2015 08:44

ReginaBlitz 'why is it down to us all the time?'

Well just for a start, perhaps because the situation is our fault in the first place due to our meddling in the Middle East.

abbieanders · 23/12/2015 08:45

why is it down to us all the time?

Who is 'us', here?

waitingimpatient · 23/12/2015 08:45

'Charity begins at home'

Last time I checked we all lived on earth. I'd consider that 'home'

TiredButFineODFOJ · 23/12/2015 08:46

So the council has tried to house the people "already here" but can't. It gets extra funding for housing syrian refugees, uses this to try to encourage more landlords to let properties (because many landlords won't accept people on benefits but might be willing to accept refugees) and this is unfair why?
They're sourcing EXTRA property with EXTRA funding, it wasn't there in the first place to "take" from Brits on the social housing list.
No YANBU at all, those women and girls can just stay ther and get tortured who do they think they are coming here and gettting free housing!

Cerseirys · 23/12/2015 08:46

OP do you even know what social housing is? Because it isn't what the leaflet is referring to. But why let that stand in the way of some good old-fashioned bigotry? Hmm

LizzieMacQueen · 23/12/2015 08:47

Is this just happening in London?

bodenbiscuit · 23/12/2015 08:48

This reminds me of an ignorant person I know who keeps posting 'the uk is full' on Facebook.

PopcornFrenzy · 23/12/2015 08:48

I'm not saying that the refugees shouldn't be helped the refugees here are forming ghetto type places that are becoming harder to police, my worry is that many being housed in the same place with be the same in the UK, I'll be perfectly honest it's fucking scary, they're not interested in becoming part of the community, learning the language and generally integrating in the population.

Regardless of what the hand wringers say middle eastern people live differently to how western people live, I'm all for helping but if you seek asylum you need to integrate properly

bodenbiscuit · 23/12/2015 08:50

Popcorn - how do you know how refugees feel about Living in the uk?

TiredButFineODFOJ · 23/12/2015 08:52

Extra housing sourced with extra funding from government. Those already waiting for social housing have lost nothing.
Many landlords are unwilling to rent to social housing tenants but might be willing to let to refugees.
I work for a homeless charity so I think I've covered the "charity starts at home" part, now I have got that out of the way I think I'd like to spend my spare time helping refugees, if that's ok.
Sorry, what exactly have you contributed to charity at home or elsewhere...?

Seeyounearertime · 23/12/2015 08:52

Ive said it before but I'll sy it again.
These people are fleeing a warzone in fear of their lives, we would all do the same so that's understandable. Why then, if theyre out of danger, do the continue to travel? If war broke out in England, I'd go to Scotland I wouldn't then travel to France, Belgium, Germany and so on.
Basically why are they travelling 1000s of mile through safety to get to safety?
At this point surely theyre not 'Refugees' any more but economic migrants?

PopcornFrenzy · 23/12/2015 08:52

I have no experience of what's happening in the uk I can only say what's happening in Germany right now.

molyholy · 23/12/2015 08:52

It's not social housing OP. They are requesting any private LL's to house refugees. Remember that picture of the dead child, when the country was up in arms asking our government to please help these people, who are prepared to die, to escape their hellish lives?

They are asking to house 50 refugees, not for 50 social houses taken out of their stock.

Your thread title is completely incorrect.

Have some fucking compassion.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 23/12/2015 08:54

Oh FFS

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 23/12/2015 08:55

I'll l be perfectly honest it's fucking scary, they're not interested in becoming part of the community, learning the language and generally integrating in the population

Scary if you have a bigoted point of view.

Bet if you fled from an actual war you'd instantly sign up for those language lessons within a few days rather than clinging to a language and people you are familiar with...not.