To suggest that ff babies are generally more content than breastfed babies?

[mrsb26]

...because they are fuller for longer?

Following on from an article I read recently regarding a study that suggested that of its recipients, the ff babies were generally deemed to be more calm, easy to settle to sleep etc than breastfed babies.

I know this is bound to be a taboo subject, but I must say, as a breastfeeding mother myself to a 4 month old dd, I have considered whether she'd be more satisfied on formula. She's not the easiest of babies and, to me, seems fussier and more demanding than her formula fed peers.

For example, she is really hard to settle to sleep for naps. She will sometimes feed to sleep, but not always (I know this is a debate on itself). I have never been to the shops or out for a walk for half an hour without her fussing (even if it's just for a little bit). She will sit on my knee or go to someone else for five minutes tops before fussing and starting to cry.

I'm not doubting the benefits of the quality of breastmilk, obviously. I guess I just feel like I'm filling up a tank that's emptying as quick as it's filling^^ and that she's never fully satisfied. I know breastmilk is digested quicker, but still.

She has no issues re: reflux, tongue tie or anything either.

Of course there are behavioural differences amongst all babies, but as a general rule, what is your opinion? Interested to hear from anyone who has perhaps breastfed one baby and formula fed another.

Dixie I think what cotto is trying to say is that a myth that FF babies sleep really well is perpetuated widely and that can be the tipping point for a knackered postnatal woman struggling to BF to switch to formula. My friend FF as she loves her sleep and thought FF babies were better sleepers than BF babies. What she didn't bargain for was her DS needing fed every 3 hours and taking 2 hours to feed and wind him

The poster said no baby has ever died from drinking formula milk. They have. Formula milk
Used in exactly the right way, as it was intended to be used, has killed babies.

"Quite clearly people care or there wouldn't be heated debate."

Well they're clearly posting repeatedly that they couldn't care less so why wouldn't I take them at their word?

pyjama I care in a way how other people feed their children, as in id like more women to BF so it then becomes normalised in society and stops the ridiculousness of restaurants asking women to cover up in public or judging them for feeding a child past six months, etc. WHO also stated if more people BF than FF the NHS would save £40million a year. So I feel I care on a wider level rather than an individual level

There have also been a number of cases where formula been tampered with and killed babies, and also a handful of cases where batches were made incorrectly causing death and long term damage en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_formula

How is that using it as its intended?

sigh
BF is protective in many areas - reduced rates of Breast cancer, Ovarian cancer ,diabetes .
It reduces the risk of SIDS by 50% in EBF babies under 3 months .
Overall BF babies have lower rates of ear infection and D&V if they are BF.
Life long they will have reduced risk of heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

Why are you arguing that something made in a factory and served in a plastic bottle is the same as milk made for that infant, served instantly at the right temperature and made just for that individual, is better or even equal.
its not- its adequate but without the benefits to mother or baby.

There are cases where breastfeeding mothers have erroneously taken medication which has gone on to kill their babies.

Link?

If the batch has been tampered with/manufactured incorrectly then it can't possibly be used as intended, can it?

Piper I fully agree women shouldn't be asked to leave places because they are bf, or for feeding a child past 6 months although I think it looks weird when a child who can talk ASKS for a bf

Piper, Google?

If they don't care they can piss off with their "oh I breastfed so I'm better than you" bullshit.

I chose to formula feed from birth. One reason was I wasn't comfortable with the idea of getting my boobs out in front if my dad. (I know its not quite like that but you get what I'm saying) especially as I know my dad is a complete arse and I would have had all sorts of nasty comments remembers mum breastfeeding baby brother upstairs because my dad didn't want to see it
And that was only one reason, I had others.
Choosing to formula feed saved me a lot of stress and aggravation. I decided I'd rather be happy and feed from a bottle than be miserable feeding from the boob.

Oh and the breast cancer thing, say that to the children of a woman who breastfed and still ended up dying from breast cancer. I'm sure it will bring them great comfort to know that the chances of it happening werent as high because she breastfed.

No, why should I google when you're the one making outlandish claims?

"here's a random fact"

"What's your source?"

"Not telling"

Cotto
Someone earlier posted a link that showed the long term advantages of bf to the child are minimal.

As for the mother, we are entitled to choose our own risks.

Your mention of plastic and factory has made you sound crunchy by the wayv

Tali why do you think asking for BM is weird? Do you find it weird when they ask for a bottle?

Opinions like that is why BF needs normalised

It's hilarious because I'm very left wing but I don't bf.

Obviously I'm for teh capitalizm really.

Suit yourself, Piper, I didn't randomly make it up. Y'know there's a reason you can't take some medication if breastfeeding?

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I do think that FF do sleep better than BF small babies BUT its not what was intended !
BF babies wake and feed in the night because BF milk is extra rich at night and its what was best naturally.
Small babies sleeping through the night is nice for their parents but not natural and increases the risk of SIDS .
Bloody hell if mine had slept through at 6 weeks I would have been hyper anxious !

Piper because they usually make boob grab motions and I think it invades the woman's privacy. I'd be mortified if my child tried to expose me or asked for my boobs.

Fatty who says they're better than you because they BF?

I also find it odd you are convinced you'd be miserable about something even though you've never tried it

Cotto

But what of bf babies who sleep through young?

Not that I'm aware of any babies, bf or ff who slept through at 6 weeks.

cotto for someone who loves everything natural you're sure on your computer a lot.

GF ?? what ?

Tali. My DS never made "boob grab" motions or tried to expose me, and if he had, he wouldn't have been fed at that point in time. It's fairly easy to instil nursing manners and not allow that sort of behaviour, plus an older baby/toddler can be told to wait and given a snack/drink instead. In reality, old toddlers tend to be fed at home - morning and evening - so you'd rarely see it out and about.

There's been a lot of superiority in this thread.
And you can find it odd all you like. I knew I wouldn't enjoy breastfeeding. The same way I know I won't enjoy being shot. I've never actually been shot but it doesn't look all that great from what I've seen.