To suggest that ff babies are generally more content than breastfed babies?

[mrsb26]

...because they are fuller for longer?

Following on from an article I read recently regarding a study that suggested that of its recipients, the ff babies were generally deemed to be more calm, easy to settle to sleep etc than breastfed babies.

I know this is bound to be a taboo subject, but I must say, as a breastfeeding mother myself to a 4 month old dd, I have considered whether she'd be more satisfied on formula. She's not the easiest of babies and, to me, seems fussier and more demanding than her formula fed peers.

For example, she is really hard to settle to sleep for naps. She will sometimes feed to sleep, but not always (I know this is a debate on itself). I have never been to the shops or out for a walk for half an hour without her fussing (even if it's just for a little bit). She will sit on my knee or go to someone else for five minutes tops before fussing and starting to cry.

I'm not doubting the benefits of the quality of breastmilk, obviously. I guess I just feel like I'm filling up a tank that's emptying as quick as it's filling^^ and that she's never fully satisfied. I know breastmilk is digested quicker, but still.

She has no issues re: reflux, tongue tie or anything either.

Of course there are behavioural differences amongst all babies, but as a general rule, what is your opinion? Interested to hear from anyone who has perhaps breastfed one baby and formula fed another.

He also wouldn't take one breast because he'd been pulled out with a forceps and had a swollen face, and being put on that side hurt him.

So fuck off with your breastfeeding is always better crap

Oh don't Dixie that thought fill a me with dread :o (I did have one when she was 1 and 7 though!)

How bloody sad that the best thing about FF is that someone else can do it so you can get away from your baby.
Wild horses would not have dragged me away from mine.
Totally get youDecaff

Well my babies only ever BF and by the age of one slept through - a miracle !

Dixie YOU don't have a better bond with the one child you breastfed over the others. Presuming you finished feeding them a while a go DS4 may not feel hE has a better bond with you anymore. In fact they might not even be bonded with you, who knows.
However it came up in the context of trying to settle BF babies at nursery compared to those babies who didn't rely on their mothers for their food. So no, I make no aspirations about your personal bond. I find it hard to see how people would argue that a breastfed baby is more attached to its mother in the early says though (obviously this attachment diminishes as they become more independent)

Tali you seem very bitter about breastfeeding

Cotto how bloody sad that you don't have your own life or identity outside yours

There's nothing wrong with wanting some sleep/food/time to yourself.

What do you mean "get you away from your baby", Cotto?

For me the best part about ff was that it halted my runaway train style journey towards pnd but don't let things like that get in the way of you sounding like a patronising arse.

Sharon and you seem fanatical about it.

I went into bf with the motto "if it works great if it doesn't it doesn't matter". I'm happy with formula.

I'm not happy with pricks insinuating the way I feed my child is inferior

My baby was whisked off to neonatal and had to have formula for low blood sugars.

He also couldn't latch, ended up jaundice which again had to be sorted with formula.

So in life and death circumstances and in my case formula was best.

Maybe people should think before they spout their evangelical breastfeeding crap. After all aren't the majority of formula fed babies failed BF babies??? Do we all need the obvious pointed out to us?

Nobody else feeds my baby. He won't feed for anyone except me.
How I would love to hand him to someone else and have a bath instead of trying to work it around his feeds, which even though he's bottle fed can be anything from an hour and a half apart and 3 hours apart. And then I have 2 older children to care for too.

Well der !
They are older now so ha ha ! at the lack of identity kneejerk shite .
They are growing up - I don't BF them now so sadly you can shove your sad

Why is my BF my babies anything to do with your PND ?
If I had FF would it have helped ?
Thought not

Cotto, with all fairness, some people have to go back to work.
I had to go back when mine we are 5 months. Luckily with the third I could express enough and they let me go home in the middle of the day to feed (lived v close to work) but that's a luxury most people don't have. With the older two I did introduce formula earlier, I could never express though, not sure why I could with the third...
I suppose the point I'm making is, we all do what we have to given our own circumstances. I doubt any woman who has joined a parenting forum and takes an interest in parenting matters, is in any way a poor mother, quite the opposite!

BM is like steamed veg chicken and rice. Full of goodness and nutrients and energy. Formula is like a curry and a beer
Well thanks for sharing! That might make you feel good about yourself but as someone who had no choice but to feed my baby "a curry and a beer", that's not nice to read. Even though I know it's bullshit.

Sadmother, the 'whole host of other problems' caused by formula - do tell?

OP, my FF baby has been fussy and demanding from the word go. I had to switch to formula at 5 weeks and there was no behavioural change. Daytime naps were practically non-existent til around 7 months (sorry!) and night-time sleep also very erratic. I say go with what works best for both of you, good luck with whatever you decide.

Nothing at all Cotto, it's just some people don't like sounding like insensitive, condescending fuckwits.

Good to see that's something else you don't struggle with 👍🏻

unimaginitive don't let it other you. DS was in neonatal and had formula, different reasons but same result.

some people are just arseholes

I'm too slow for this thread

cotto you clearly didn't when they were babies though.

I'm not in the slightest bit evangelical about BF. I couldn't care less what you do with your individual baby. Just don't pretend that your circumstances matter at a population level, or take out your bitterness on mothers who do breastfeed

I'm not bitter and I don't care if people breastfeed.

I care about smug bastards being sanctimonious about it. dont claim to not be evangelical when you made a ridiculous claim about breastfeeding

Thanks tali, I'm convinced people like cotto don't exist in the real world.

I've never met an actual person beyond MN who says this type of stuff. All my friends and people I surround myself with say BF was a pain in the backside and made them miserable.

I'm not bitter, quite a few of my friends breastfeed...but unlike a few of you lot they haven't got a misplaced sense of superiority.

HTH

It's no ridiculous. How do you know it's not right? What do you know about it? Bugger all

It's not ridiculous to compare formula milk to beer and curry, Sharon?

I call troll. Nobody is that dense.

unimaginative I know bf and ff people and only one bf was sanctimonious about it, and even then didn't say it to my face. Most people just get on with it

sharon because you can't measure it