To stick two fingers up at the bbc

[ginandjuice]

Finally ditched our Virgin box after we realised we only use it to watching corrie. Which means no more to licence and no more funding the bbc. Good old Xbox

We stopped last year to. Biased reporting and frankly awful behaviour. I always believed that the bbc were impartial, and served the truth.

We no longer watch live tv. Partly due to work commitments and partly due to preference for nowtv and Netflix.

I don't watch any bbc programs. The quality went down a while ago.

You shouldn't be allows to watch bbc iplayer without a licence. That loop hole needs to be closed ASAP.

I certainly wouldn't give my money to murdoch or branson to watch trash and adverts.

I agree I shouldn't watch bbc stuff on iplayer without making a contribution (although I barely watch it now - an occasional QT is about it), but I don't see how they're going to require a licence for it.

Love the bbc. I'd pay the fee for radio 4 alone. Being able to get iplayer without paying the fee is not really fair is it.
Netflix is disappointing. Often I flick through and can't find a thing I want to watch.

Btw I agree about Sky and Virgin - so I have never subscribed to them, but they are not the only alternative to BBC. I do subscribe to Netflix - no adverts, and unlike BBC, it's not stuffed full of trailers and propoganga about how great it is.

You were paying £70 to Virgin purely for Tv...?

The BBC is brilliant and makes excellent programmes.

I cannot think of a decent show on ITV or sky that I'd watch over the things that the BBC churns out.

They sell programs we've paid for to be shown in countries who haven't paid for them.
em, if they sell them to these countries then they have paid. That is what sell means.

LOLOL? :o

Unless it's that definition of "sell" that means "give away".

(Stray question mark)

I don't have Netflix etc. but I am happy to pay my TV licence. CBeebies, CBBC, fantastic ad-free radio and radio I player, Dr Who, Sherlock, Mary Beard, David Attenborough, all the educational resources like BBC Bitesize, the news website, local news...

It's the biggest guest bargain around.

I have no idea where that guest came from.

Out of interest, who's your internet provider? I haven't found one who could make it worth my while for internet only, most seemed not much more for tv on top.

I'd much rather have BBC than adverts every ten minutes like in other countries. There's still some quality tv there. I couldn't work out how to find anything on Netflix, the menu seems really badly designed

meg but you can and its legal. So I watch it. People saying you shouldn't be able to watch iplayer without a licence, the loophole isn't the viewers fault so why would we pay??

No-one's answered how they think the iplayer issue can be addressed in practical terms -

How will it be enforced?
If one will need a licence to watch bbc iplayer, but not 4od, etc, that's a different principle from the rest of tv licensing, where you need a licence to watch even if you never watch bbc.

If they are going to require us to have a licence to watch any catchup service, not just bbc iplayer, presumably that would have to include YouTube - tricky to enforce.

It might be legal, but you're being a bit of a dick to watch something without paying for it and crowing about it on here.

The license fee is nothing. The BBC produces amazing programmes no commercial provider would be able to. I don't understand the hate.

Although my virgin crept up to £120 a month so I share your Virgin hate. But you're being a tightwad over the TV license

Don't you have to pay a TV licence in other countries that don't have the BBC? So, I think even if the BBC went under (God forbid) you'd still have to pay some kind of licence fee.

How do you think the BBC has money to make the programmes you watch on iplayer without the licence fee?
Shame on you OP.

I'm sure enforcing the licence to watch Iplayer can't be that difficult practically - I can't watch sky or Virgin without paying, or access websites you pay for so it could be done along the same lines as that. You can't access BBC online abroad in some places so they'd do the same with a password to access if you'd paid I assume

And the money from world wide selling (not giving away ) programmes does filter back into programme making, it's partly what keeps the licence at £12 a month rather than £50 odd for sky etc

I can't see the bbc making the I player a fully paid service fur the simple reason that no one else that is doing it (regardless of the country btw).
They might decide not to put everything on the Iplayer.

Tbh we don't have a tv either and haven't done so fur a long time. Much better IMO. The children are mainly watching programs (from the bbc ) direct from YouTube.
They use to watch a few of them from the Iplayer but very clearly when they have to chose what to watch, they are more careful and there is little they want to watch.

Here we use blinkbox for the few films we watch as a family. Otherwise, we read, we talk, we play games together or just spend a lot if time outside.

Sooper - but the BBC isn't a subscription service like Sky etc. I wonder if they are worried that going down that route will lead to the end of the fee as we know it?

Yeah I feel really bad..

Not watching the BBC abroad is an issue very easy to solve though. And it doesn't cost a lot of money either.

What I'm surprised about is the fact you can watch the BBC live from the Iplayer. But as others have said, it would be easy to solve.

As far as I'm concerned, to will slowly make its way out. There is so much choice now of what to watch over the internet that people will want to choose what they are paying for. The day of live tv are counted IMO.

Have not read the thread, but do you have children OP? are you going to boycott all the bbc educational resources too? Cos they are the absolute best available on the web, for every stage of education, but particularly GCSE