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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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to think this is a bit unfair

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DDDDDORA · 01/12/2015 16:57

I am prepared to be told that I am unreasonable.
On Friday DD (8) forgot to bring her homework home, so she asked a friend to send her a picture of it via Skype. DD then wrote it all out, completed it and handed it in on time on yesterday.
Today she came out of school upset because her teacher has taken 5 minutes golden time off of her for forgetting to take it home in the first place.
DD was upset because she did complete the homework but just not on the piece of paper that it was set on.
This is the same punishment that DD received about a month ago for not handing her homework in on time, she excepted this punishment with no fuss as she knew it was her responsibility to make sure it was handed in on time.
AIBU think this punishment is a bit harsh as DD used her initiative to make sure that she did the homework and handed it in on time.

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Dipankrispaneven · 02/12/2015 22:35

I've seen some ridiculous assertions in my time, but I think sharoncarol's must win some sort of prize.

UterusUterusGhali · 02/12/2015 22:40

Yeah. In our small village school of 50 odd pupils we are zapped with one of those gizmos from Men In Black so we don't remember the names of our neighbours or the kid's names written everywhere.
The kids are told never to talk about their friends to their parent too.
Data protection, innit.

Op YANBU.

foxy6 · 02/12/2015 22:44

i think thats unfair she should be credited for finding out what it was and completing it rather than just saying i forgot it so i dont have to do it. my ds 8 often forgets his homework but they understand him at school as he often forgets lots of things lol.

Spero · 02/12/2015 22:47

I would be very grateful to be pointed in the direction of the statute, regulation or guidance that sets that out.

TIA

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 02/12/2015 22:51

Just casually updating my child protection law spreadsheet and eager to find another law I seem to have missed about writing children's names on a whiteboard being both privacy breach and child protection issue?
*
I would be very grateful to be pointed in the direction of the statute, regulation or guidance that sets that out.

TIA*

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 02/12/2015 22:52

bold fail!!

treaclesoda · 02/12/2015 23:19

Last time I was in the assembly hall in my child's school there was a noticeboard where there was work displayed where there was a photo of each child and beneath it they had each written their life story. We parents ooh'd and aah'd over the lovely things they had written. I didn't realise I was supposed to be outraged that someone had read my dds work. If I'd known, I would have poked the parents eyes out for looking, and then performed a citizens arrest on the teacher for crimes against confidentiality.

sharoncarol43 · 02/12/2015 23:54

*Just casually updating my child protection law spreadsheet and eager to find another law I seem to have missed about writing children's names on a whiteboard being both privacy breach and child protection issue?

I would be very grateful to be pointed in the direction of the statute, regulation or guidance that sets that out.*

clearly you need to if you are seriously missing this most very basic of training.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 03/12/2015 00:03

So did you have the link to that piece of legislation Sharon? I'm struggling to find it.

WhereTheFuckIsMyFuckingCoat · 03/12/2015 00:04

Because if that's the case, I think there's quite a few parents on here who might need to be taking it up with their dc's schools. or not

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DDDDDORA · 03/12/2015 06:58

Sorry Sharon I forgot to mention we are in England, as far as I'm aware that law does not exist here, I'm not sure about other parts of the UK or other countries.
I will however check with my boss today who just happens to be the head teacher of the school I work at, which also has children's names up all over the classroom, main hall and corridor displays.
Could you provide a link to this legislation so that I can refer to it, many thanks.

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MummyZELC · 03/12/2015 07:32

Teacher sounds like a bitter old twat

Crabbitface · 03/12/2015 17:20

Shiiiiiittttt - we've got full class lists, a list of all of the children and which parts they are playing in the nativity, names and faces and work plastered over every single available space and sometimes the kids names and wait for it...photographs...appear on the newsletter, website and even the local rag! Should I call the cops?

sadwidow28 · 03/12/2015 17:44

Can I assure everyone on this thread that children's names do NOT have to removed from white boards or children's art work or any other work that signals their achievement (or even de-merits)

There is NO legal document NOR guidance, NOR a memorandum that supports the information given by a PP on this thread [but I suspect that you all realised that anyway].

However, the protocol about photographing/videoing of children is a safe-guarding issue and inspectors check that appropriate policies are in place. Inspectors also ask the HT and the CP Officer, "And what would you do if a parent breaches your protocol?" Our judgement regarding CP and safe-guarding is judged accordingly and may be written as an 'Immediate Improvement' statement.

As part of our inspection, we have to be informed (via the Local Gov database) how many 'children at risk' there are in the school. [This is often fluid because of the nature of the family circumstances and schools within taxi-distance of a refuge.] We NEVER include those children in our child-centred interviews - but we DO check that they are being safe-guarded appropriately. We watch hand-overs and drop-offs. We evaluate the extra counselling such children are afforded by the LEA.

There is another thread in AIBU about someone who saw a video of a nativity play which was uploaded to FB. She reported it to the Headteacher as a safe-guarding issue. That was absolutely correct.

I am glad OP's daughter was removed from her punishment. I am not sure that the teacher was honest. Her name was on the board for -5 mins golden time.

Spero · 03/12/2015 19:00

Thanks Ofsted Inspector, I am reassured.

However, it is funny is it not that the complete conviction with which people state utter bobbins about child protection law is in direct and inverse proportion to how right they are.

The more firmly they state their conviction also seems to be very closely related to how reluctant they are to point me to the law/guidance/regulation/fantasy/unicorn they rely upon.

Enjolrass · 03/12/2015 19:11

That's teacher sounds like a bit of a twat tbh.

I am just imagine in a teacher running down the corridor shouting 'hide them names.....hide all the names!!!!!!!'

Every Time there is a visitor in the school!

A bit like this

sadwidow28 · 03/12/2015 21:05

Spero

I did notice - hence I posted.

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DDDDDORA · 04/12/2015 17:55

So DD got her homework folder back today, (remembered to bring it home) she has just checked what this weeks is and noticed that the teacher hasn't even marked last week!
I'm really confused now, I am wondering how she could've issued the punishments when she didn't even bother to mark the work.

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Damselindestress · 07/12/2015 12:00

Sounds to me like the teacher was a bit disorganised and just punished everyone who had left their work sheet behind, not realising that your daughter had still found a way to do the work. It's worrying that she tried to deny this and cover it up when confronted.

Namechangenell · 07/12/2015 12:10

How strange... And what an odd thing to punish your DD or anyone for. It's not like it teaches them anything about the real world and the workplace. Can you imagine saying to your boss that you hadn't done something as you didn't have the correct piece of paper?! Sounds like DD used her initiative, which should be encouraged. Not sure I'd trust the teacher after the latest developments.

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