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People that ignore no smoking signs at airports and train stations should be fined

94 replies

raranah · 26/11/2015 06:56

Most stations and airports have smoking areas so that people going in and out dont have to breathe in smoke.

However it seems the bast majority just ignore these signs and smoke right at the entrances even though they clearly say no smoking and smoking zone is round the corner.

Aibu to think they should employ someone to hand out 199 fines? That should easily cover the cost of employ ing someone.

OP posts:
RealHuman · 26/11/2015 21:32

I don't mind the way smokers smell.

toffeeboffin · 26/11/2015 21:38

It'd be nice if smoking was just banned completely.

It's disgusting.

redredblue · 26/11/2015 22:30

Yanbu
This is something that annoys me every single day.
I even get annoyed at people who walk past me smoking.
Smoking is disgusting.

sashh · 27/11/2015 07:42

You do realise the car fumes are far far far more harmful to you than smoke from someone smoking. It's always mentioned on these threads so i thought I should highlight it again.

But they don't smell like cigarettes. If someone could invent a non smelly cigarette I wouldn't really mind.

There is something about tobacco that the smell makes me feel sick and it sticks to clothes/hair, my clothes and hair.

Ni I couldn't of stepped away I was at a bus stop waiting for a bus.

Have you considered asking the smoker,"Do you want me to save your place so you can use the smoking area?"

Bunbaker · 27/11/2015 08:00

"You do realise the car fumes are far far far more harmful to you than smoke from someone smoking."

Yawn.

There is always someone who trots out that old argument to justify why they smoke.

Both are pollutants, but they aren't the same thing at all.

raranah · 27/11/2015 08:19

I couldn't of possible ly asked every single selfish fuckwhit smoker a question.

They weren't waiting in a line. Just determined to have a fag the second they got outside the building.

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GhostWorld · 27/11/2015 12:25

I find this conversation so frustrating. I am a smoker and I know what its like to be a non smoker when everyone around you is smoking so I am ridiculously careful about smoking near people, I make a conscious effort to hold my breath (i.e. not breath smoke out) when I'm walking past someone and always hide my cig behind me when walking past children. I make sure I only smoke in designated areas and if there are kids in pub gardens always move away to have my cigarette. I feel like I shouldn't be judged for smoking, yes you don't do it and well done etc. but its a choice and I've made it. However I do not appreciate the dirty looks I get walking around, and its clearly people like raranah that are giving them, I don't think smoking is a reason to judge me any less than me drinking publicly or unnecessary driving, but sometimes I feel really upset walking to/from work because of the way people look at me.

SarahSavesTheDay · 27/11/2015 12:43

GhostWorld people who smoke while walking down the street are the worst. It's not the people you're passing who you need to worry about, it's the people behind you who are inhaling your smoke.

If the street is empty, I can overtake you and only inhale maybe 3 or 4 breaths of your smoke. Fine. If the street is busy and I can't overtake you, then I'm stuck breathing your secondhand smoke. How is that courteous?

If you don't want to be judged for smoking, do a better job of ensuring it's not impinging upon other people.

gamerchick · 27/11/2015 12:47

Yeah so not only are you not allowed to smoke standing still, you're not allowed while walking either. Wink

I don't/didn't give a shit about smoking while walking. I don't flick my dumper on the ground so people should get the fuck over themselves. You breath in more crap from cars walking down the street.

SarahSavesTheDay · 27/11/2015 12:54

gamer how lovely & measured you sound Flowers

raranah · 27/11/2015 12:57

Ghost I'm clearly only talking about only people who smoke in non smoking areas. You have a huge chip.

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ScribblerOnTheRoof · 27/11/2015 13:07

There is always someone who trots out that old argument to justify why they smoke I don't feel I need to justify my reasons for smoking to any fucker, including you.

Tobacco is addictive, its a hard drug to quit.

I don't particularly like some peoples perfume, gives me headaches. And yes, the fumes from the massive 4x4 cars that the lazy arse Mother's drive to drop their kids to school also affect me.

Mums in their cars making the morning commute unbearable. Lets ban it.

Your arguments are stupid. Live and let live. You have your pubs and restaurants back.

Oh and int he summer, stop coming into our outdoor beer garden whilst we are smoking then moan about it

sparechange · 27/11/2015 13:11

Smoking outside the maternity unit at my local hospital, by the taxi drop off so new parents and their newborns are exposed to smoke as they wait.

The diesel exhaust fumes from the taxi are FAR more harmful to be exposing a newborn to! Any wafts of smoke are totally irrelevant compared to those.

OP, the reason they have no smoking signs isn't so that people don't have to breathe in smoke. It is so the entrances aren't blocked by people congregating there.
So I imagine that unless they are causing a security issue, the owners or operators of the bus station/airport/whatever don't actually give a shiny shit about a small act of civil disobedience. Certainly not enough to start employing plastic police to come and hand out unenforcable fines

motheroftwoboys · 27/11/2015 13:37

I often wonder what world some OPs live in. Do people really believe that only thick/poor/ill people smoke? That is such nonsense. I have never smoked and hate it. DH was a smoker but is now a confirmed vaper. However, both DSs are occasional smokers and both terribly "naice" trendy twenty somethings. One works in TV one works in Law. I work in a very good independent school and many of the sixth form students smoke socially. Go to any nightclub/gig/part/student gathering and lots of them still smoke. Maybe they will get more sense when they get older.

GhostWorld · 27/11/2015 13:42

Sarah, I understand that, and I'm well aware that people behind me also have the issue of walking into smoke and luckily my walk to work isn't very busy but I can assure you that I also take that into account, which is why I don't smoke in town centres etc. and if I do I would stand out of the way.

Apologies raranah, I see that now, I think I read someone else's post and thought it was something you had said. Having said that..

There are many things that annoy me, cyclists on the pavement/not waiting at lights, drivers that don't indicate (especially on the roads near where I live, deathtrap.) and drivers that don't notice me waiting on the side of the road when they're driving 2 mph anyway, students that think they can take up the whole pavement and walk really slowly, and parents that push me off the pavement with their prams or small children without saying thanks. I don't then give the squint eye to every cyclist/driver/student/parent, especially ones that are clearly making an effort not to harm or inconvenience me. So yeah maybe I have got a chip because its not nice to be tarred with the same brush when I'm trying my hardest to avoid you being around my smoke.

Like scribbler said, live and let live.

Daisysbear · 27/11/2015 13:55

Unfortunately it's not illegal, so you will always get the ignorant, inconsiderate smokers who don't give a damn about anyone else and will smoke anywhere and everywhere that isn't specifically 'against the law'.

And many of them will come up will all kinds of aggressive and defensive excuses for their crap behaviour. Then they moan about the nanny state. Well, if they didn't behave like brats, there wouldn't have to be so many rules and regulations around their behaviour.

IfNotNowThenWhenever · 27/11/2015 16:36

Behaving like brats? I really never see this.
I occasionally see people smoking outside the hospital, or in shop doorways. they usually look apologetic. I have smoked outside a hospital once, after a bereavement; some kind soul gave me a cigarette when i asked.
Its a just a fag, outside, in the air.
Many things annoy me; the aforementioned 4 x4s driven by women (sorry but it always is) who cant drive or park, and live 10 minutes away from school anyway.
Cyclists who don't wear helmets, and have no lights, and presumably a death wish, who nearly cause me to have accidents daily.
People who let their dogs shit in the street.
But I am not proposing banning big cars, bicycles or dogs.
If a bit of smoke wafting near you out of doors is the most you have to worry about,I say you must have lived a charmed life.
And I DONT smoke anymore!

cranberryx · 27/11/2015 18:46

sparechange

It's not the same at all. The taxi drop off/pick up at our maternity unit is on a side road that loops around and is only used by people getting picked up and dropped off. How is someone pulling up in a taxi for one minute every half an hour the same as someone standing there chain smoking next to new parents? Only to be replaced by someone else moments later?

Btw - there is a designated smoking area 10 feet from the entrance, across the road. They just don't use it. It has a nice and shiny roof and seats and everything.

As I said in my PP, most people are considerate of others, but to imply that because car fumes are worse than smoke, that it cancels the other is a weak argument.

SuperT3d · 27/11/2015 19:13

You're not allowed to smoke or use your mobile on petrol station forecourts in the UK -> doesn't stop some idiots who then seem baffled when the staff tell them over the speaker system to stop :-/

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