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People that ignore no smoking signs at airports and train stations should be fined

94 replies

raranah · 26/11/2015 06:56

Most stations and airports have smoking areas so that people going in and out dont have to breathe in smoke.

However it seems the bast majority just ignore these signs and smoke right at the entrances even though they clearly say no smoking and smoking zone is round the corner.

Aibu to think they should employ someone to hand out 199 fines? That should easily cover the cost of employ ing someone.

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Crazypetlady · 26/11/2015 13:48

I think some of the language towards smokers here is unnecessary. However I do think not smoking right in public doorways doesn't take a lot of consideration. Fining wouldn't achieve much imo.

HaydeeofMonteCristo · 26/11/2015 13:54

Alternatively, sometimes I choose to walk through the clouds of smoke in order to remember what it was like when I used to smoke! Grin

(I am on the "people shouldn't smoke right outside the station" camp though. As above).

GruntledOne · 26/11/2015 13:54

Are you going to ban cars and industrial buildings and buses etc etc etc.

Why does this non-argument always appear? How can the fact that pollution exists justify adding to it unnecessarily? On that basis we may as well give up altogether on trying to control pollution.

MidniteScribbler · 26/11/2015 13:59

Smokers are usually addicts who are risking a much shorter and less pleasant life. Don't you think they deserve your pity, not your disdain?

Nope. Don't give a fuck. Not my problem. Keep your stinky cancer sticks far away from me.

hellsbellsmelons · 26/11/2015 14:02

I admit I'm working class.
Too right I am. I work 6 days a week.
But I earn rather well and I have friends who earn a lot more than I do and some of them smoke too.
No mental health issues at all (I hope).
I didn't smoke for 20 years, until I found my husband having an affair.
That set me off and TBH I like smoking and don't want to quit just yet.
I will eventually but I do like it and I do like the social side. I have chats with all and sundry outside pubs and theatres, etc.....

It is ironic complaining about smokers outside bus and tube stations.
You do realise the car fumes are far far far more harmful to you than smoke from someone smoking. It's always mentioned on these threads so i thought I should highlight it again.

SarahSavesTheDay · 26/11/2015 14:08

You do realise the car fumes are far far far more harmful to you than smoke from someone smoking. It's always mentioned on these threads so i thought I should highlight it again.

Transportation causes pollution. Yes. It's also the reason we can get products to stores, kids to school, people to work, etc. See the difference?

ofallthenerve · 26/11/2015 14:16

Keep your stinky cancer sticks far away from me.

MY stinky cancer sticks? I don't smoke Confused.

hellsbellsmelons · 26/11/2015 14:31

Not really - if it didn't exist we'd all manage some how.
Live nearer and work nearer etc....
Walk everywhere.
The point is, that is all doing you damage, real damage.
Someone smoking a couple of feet away from you for a few seconds won't do anything harmful to you at all.

raranah · 26/11/2015 14:32

Oh please, im only calling the smokers lazy that refuse to walk 1 min away to the smoking area. I refuse to believe there are many people in the uk who dont understand the no smoking symbol and are unable to move to the smoking area.

These threads always turn into a race to the bottom. Like you can't be critical of one thing unless everything else is perfect or the world isnt perfect so you may as well forget taking any action to make it a better place.

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raranah · 26/11/2015 14:34

a few seconds

I clearly said I was waiting outside for a bus for over twenty mins constantly having no choice but to breath in 2nd hand smoke.

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SarahSavesTheDay · 26/11/2015 14:34

Not really - if it didn't exist we'd all manage some how.

Sure, there might be quite a lot of rioting over the lack of food but we'd get there in the end.

You do know that there is substantial ongoing investment in developing greener transport technologies, right?

I don't understand this logic.

hellsbellsmelons · 26/11/2015 14:36

So you were outside?
You could have stepped away if you didn't like it?

raranah · 26/11/2015 14:41

Ni I couldn't of stepped away I was at a bus stop waiting for a bus.

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GruntledOne · 26/11/2015 15:03

Hellsbells, why does the fact that one type of pollution exists make it OK to add to it unnecessarily?

HaydeeofMonteCristo · 26/11/2015 15:08

I admit I'm working class.
Too right I am. I work 6 days a week.

I love this comment. I am going to say this forever. Grin

hellsbellsmelons · 26/11/2015 15:10

Driving kids to school 1 mile away in a 4x4 is adding to it far more than smoking a cigarette.
And there are thousands of people every day doing this!
So that's OK is it?

SarahSavesTheDay · 26/11/2015 15:29

No, hellsbells it's not but one doesn't excuse the other. I don't think there's a lot of support for banning cars.

cranberryx · 26/11/2015 15:31

I have no issues with smokers at all as it's their choice to do whatever they want with their body and their money just as if they want to drink a can of special brew, or painting their nails in the street.

The issue is, as with most things in a public space, when it encroaches on other people's space and health and isn't appropriate to do so at that location.

Examples (that I have seen)

  • Smoking outside the maternity unit at my local hospital, by the taxi drop off so new parents and their newborns are exposed to smoke as they wait.
  • Smoking in doorways where people require access and have no choice but to walk through.
  • Smoking around young children (when the child was there first)
  • Smoking in children dominated spaces (outside park areas etc)

9/10 smokers that I know are VERY considerate of others, but you always get one who feels it appropriate to 'force' someone to inhale their smoke simply by lighting up at an inappropriate place.

I wouldn't start spraying deodorant at the local park, near children, just in case someone has asthma. That's my logic.

GruntledOne · 26/11/2015 15:34

Driving kids to school 1 mile away in a 4x4 is adding to it far more than smoking a cigarette. And there are thousands of people every day doing this! So that's OK is it?

No. That falls fair and square within the category of adding to pollution unnecessarily. But it still doesn't excuse adding to unnecessary pollution.

Bunbaker · 26/11/2015 15:54

"I do think that smoking should be allowed outside the airport - in a designated area or even a smoke room inside,"

They have a smoking room at Rome airport

"Does that include banning all exhaust fumes, and coal fires (you can't go outside in the Winter in our village without coughing your guts up because of the coal fires)."

I'm not convinced that there are many areas, apart from traditional mining villages where there is no mains gas supply, that aren't smokeless zones these days.

I agree with cranberry

I don't care if people want to smoke, as long as it isn't where it affects people who don't want to breathe in cigarette smoke - me, for example.

Hygellig · 26/11/2015 18:05

I don't know about the practicalities of fining people, but it would be nice if all smokers just obeyed the signs and moved to the designated area. At my local hospital there are always smokers right outside the door despite a no-smoking sign and a designated smoking area a few metres away.

I once asked someone to put out his cigarette at a children's farm (he was sitting on a picnic bench right next to a no-smoking sign) and he swore at me and my dad, which somewhat put me off confronting smokers.

IfNotNowThenWhenever · 26/11/2015 18:08

Meh. Anyone can put up a sign.

IfNotNowThenWhenever · 26/11/2015 18:24

The place that this annoys me the most is outside of my local hospital! They have signs everywhere but nobody enforcing it so some smokers stand right outside the entrance smoking!

Those'll be the nurses. Grin

SummerNights1986 · 26/11/2015 19:21

Eh? I smoke (not a lot admittedly) and my hair doesn't smell

I hate to break it to you but yes, it probably does. You just can't smell it, because you smoke.

If you're a smoker, you'll never realise just how horrific you smell until you stop. And I say this as someone who still enjoys the odd crafty one in between my vaping.

SarahSavesTheDay · 26/11/2015 19:38

Yes, was going to mention this but I became distracted by a non-sequitur. There is no way your hair doesn't stink if you smoke.