To rebel against reading diary

[Stirling84]

I think I am being unreasonable - but I've cracked.

DS is meant to record pages read. He reads every night but rarely logs more than one session a week. So we have about ten pages of nearly empty grids and 'sad face' comments from teacher.

sigh

Rubberduck Overrun - there must be a way to subvert that system.

Indeed.

--"Read 15 pages of 50 Shades of Grey"
--"What did you learn?"
--"Mummy's safe word"

I might try that!

What happens if the parent is illiterate?

prof: I like your style :D

I'm a bad person

This is an interesting article - perhaps print it off and take it into school

How Reading Logs Can Kill the Love of Reading

We just used to write the page no's down that dc had read.
The teacher had usually written the title and when the book was issued.
God, things change so quickly.
It took a matter of seconds, just the date and pages 3-7 or whatever with a section for any words they'd struggled with.

"What happens if the parent is illiterate?"

The system we had for this involved stickers, when the child was too young to write, and child writes + sticker from parent once the child was a little older.

So a sheet of small stickers went home inside the reading diary (we were aware of a specific group of illiterate parents - very supportive of the school - so could be pro-active rather than reactive, and that group all knew the system and instructed new parents). Each time the child read their school book at home, the parent stuck a sticker onto a specific page of the diary.

Once the child could read the days of the week reliably, and write page numbers they wrote the page numbers against the correct day, and the parent or extended family member would stick the sticker in next to it to say they agreed.

We obviously gave these children additional reading time at school while they were learning to read, as there was no way for parents to know whether what they read was correct. But it meant that there was no visible 'difference' in class as to who had a diary / took books home etc.

I would be perfectly happy with a note in the book explaining child's reading habits and agreeing to only note any difficulties as something out of the ordinary to be addressed by the teacher. One less checking up job for teacher,

The voice of reason one less job INDEED.

kills the love of reading. for some at least. and yes it is a chore. not done dd's this week as they do not check. (bet they do this week.) bloody murphy

dd is free reader meaning they are not given any books and just allowed to get on with it.

We do exactly same as redskybynight.
Part of the routine since reception. No biggie.

Reading regularly is a huge indicator for future academic success. Teachers are doing everything they can to encourage kids to do it. It is incredibly useful for teachers to know who is and who isn't

I think you need to trawl back and read and do some understanding of the text do some comp.

Its clear from what some parents and indeed teachers are saying is that its pretty clear which child reads, they are supported at home and they love reading.

There is no need to nag and tag and batter these dc to read, because - they already do.

If you child's love of reading is killed by writing "Read to page 27 of Adolphus Tips" then may I respectfully suggest it might not have been quite s strong as you thought?

And (sorry, sense of humour fail) why would you deliberately do stuff that makes the teacher's life more difficult?

DS reads at home, but we are hopeless with the reading diary.

We tried in reception, and managed about half of the time.

We got worse in Y1, the diary got lost after a couple of months and we never got round to replacing it.

Y2, we didn't bother filling it in beyond the first week.

Has it affected DS's reading?

Well, he's one of the three best readers in the class (one of three who get extra sessions to extend their learning), so I can't say I'm too concerned, really!

Luckily his school are lovely - so no bullshit sad faces!

"Oh, the mundane rules don't apply to us" attitude to schools

Actually they do

My dd has been reading Lemony snickett which are mutli layered interesting books with lots of meat to think about.

She has read the whole series twice. This is among lots of other books too.

Her ORT at that time was 6 or 7. Magic Key rubbish. Thankfully they were short so she could whizz through them.
SHE started to ask why her level seemed low, why her books at school do not match the books at home.

Trying to drum up enthusiam for turgid boring crap is hard and its hard to explain why a child who can read a long book with chapters, with ease, with understanding, with fluent, flawless expression is on such a low reading level.

I have had to fight at home, in the shadows to keep DD love of reading going, as said above, by researching and buying books myself.

The school, numerous times has been in danger of killing it. I have kept the flame alive.

Sorry that sounds like a proper stealth boast doesn't it?! And I suppose it is a bit really - I am proud of him but haven't told anyone except the grandparents in RL.

But more that - I'm really fecked off with the movement towards results-obsessed school management threatening love of learning in our DC.

Limbo- what did her teacher say when you went in and talked about it?

OP I would refuse to do this with DS on principle.

Logging the books he's read - if we were organised enough I'd do this as I can see it's useful for the teacher.

But pages? No way. Unless the teacher can demonstrate a genuine reason for needing to know pages, it's superfluous nonsense IMO.

It's a particular sort of middle class arrogance, isn't it? I see it in myself. "Oh, my child doesn't need to do this mundane task...." Yes.
Teachers hate reading records as well. How much effort does it take in your ever so busy life to make a note of your child's reading? Reading records are a document which helps the teacher know lots of things such as book choices e.g. fiction/non-fiction. They also help to flag up reading difficulties/ dyslexia etc. I used to give a termly prize for kids who read every night and got their record signed. It could be any reading material (within reason). Education should be a partnership between parents, child and teacher.

This is interesting too:

How to Create Nonreaders
(Academic-style article with full references)

I take back my suggestion of computer quizzes, that too would be counterproductive. Lots of really good points and suggestions in that article.

Well Her first two teachers just smiled and and batted me off.

But they recognized her love of reading as noted back up thread. They knew the books she had read and they both wrote numerous comments in record and in reports about her reading prowess.

But at parents evening, they looked at me with eyes what wanted to say more but couldn't, as if their hands were tied. They just said its good to have simple books but couldnt say more than that.

Then I was told by friends teacher mum that they hold DC back as they have to show progress.

Her new teacher however is pounding us over the record. We have parents E soon and we shall talk about it.

We found a good place for her to read school books which was - when she had a spare moment.

But now they want us to listen to her.

If they want me to prioritize that crap over the books she love they have another thing coming.

"Her new teacher however is pounding us over the record. We have parents E soon and we shall talk about it. "

Why wait for parents' evening?

I just don't understand why it's such a big deal?
Teacher ask us to do it. So we do it. Takes 5 sec. to write name of the book, how many pages, sign by parents.

Why do parents oppose what teacher asks children to do, is beyond my comprehension. Seems like teaching children not to respect their teachers.

And as for my DS, he has been logging everyday since reception (now YR3), never lost love for reading.

why wait?

Because this new behaviour has cropped up over the past few weeks. I have tried to communicate with the teacher and I have been told to wait for parents evening.
So I am.

irvine

I think its imp to question silly rules and regs that do nothing, except of themselves breed rebellion.

Ynbu but your ds will rebel himself against it. And you csnt blsme If every effort he makes is put down by his teacher with those stupid sad faces,
One way to make a child lose interest is no discourage them with put downs.
Sorry but she seems like a horrible teacher