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To throw away the landlord's shit in the loft?

356 replies

MuttonWasAGoose · 16/11/2015 14:45

We've just moved in to a nice house. The landlady mentioned that the loft was partly boarded out and that they'd left "a couple of boxes in the very back that we couldn't reach."

I just went to stow some things and pretty most of the boarded out space is full of their stuff. It's about a dozen or so cartons of crap. Mostly toys and holiday decorations.

None of this is on the inventory. I'd like to use that space for our empty suitcases, camping gear, etc. There's already a large shed full of their stuff that I grudgingly accept we can't use. But the loft situation annoys me.

DH feels it would be wrong to empty the loft. I have been in this situation before (previous landlord was much, much worse and I did throw everything away.) I just have no patience for this. I think it's infantile to be unable to take responsibility for your belongings. If they can't be bothered to move it, or even inventory it, then they clearly can't really care about it.

The first carton I looked in had what was clearly a well-loved child's teddy. Even I don't have the heart to toss that. But what about the other stuff?

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Mammylamb · 06/08/2017 10:42

Sorry. Wrong thread

Percephone · 06/08/2017 10:43

Is there an agent? If so make it their problem - make a formal comlaint and go to omudsman if not resolved.

If no agent speak to Shelter for advice. I assume it's a similar situation to when tenants leave all their crap behind. You have to give tenants notice that it will be disposed of after a certain amount of time if not collected e.g. 3 months so it might be something similar when you are entitled to vacant possession.

Brahms3rdracket · 06/08/2017 10:48

YABTU. The loft is hers, as is the whole house. You only rent this house as your home for a six month shorthold tenancy and have not right to throw anything away without the express permission of the owner. She doesn't have to give you access to the loft, it's not a habitable area of the house, so keep out.

Remember if you want to cause a rift at the start of the tenancy you're unlikely to get any extension to the tenancy agreement and she will not provide you with a reference you'll need to find your next accommodation.

Genghi · 06/08/2017 10:53

All you need to do is pick up the phone and call her. Like it or not it's not your home. You rent it. No matter how long you live there you will only ever be a tenant. If you want your own space then you should buy.

AccioMerlot · 06/08/2017 10:54

This is going to be a real test of who reads the thread, isn't it Grin

The decluttering folk do say if you haven't used something in a year, you don't need it so I vote for binning. She had plenty of opportunity to sort it.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/08/2017 11:05

I remember this thread. Grin

OP, for the love of god, throw the stuff away. She hasn't been back for it for two years. She didn't put it on the inventory. She clearly just doesn't want it.

Questioningeverything · 06/08/2017 11:10

I remember this thread too 😃

Chuck it op. Two years of storing someone's shit for free in space you're paying for is utterly ridiculous. They can get to fuck.

TuckingFaxman · 06/08/2017 11:23

It is indeed *accio! All you have to do is pick up the phone...?!

JustGettingStarted · 06/08/2017 14:42

My husband says absolutely not to breaking into the shed. There would be nothing they could do about it, of course. But he won't have anything to do with it so I'll leave it. Would be great to have it, though.

Sometimes I fantasise about it being full of stuff worth selling on eBay but even I'm not that evil.

As for the loft, I'll have to get all of our stuff out of the front area to reach their crap behind it.

Yes the windows were all resolved the first time I posted. One key opens them all.

DixieNormas · 06/08/2017 14:56

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JustGettingStarted · 06/08/2017 15:00

I am the op. I deliberately resurrected it because the stuff is still there 2 years later

gammaraystar · 06/08/2017 15:10

Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house?

mothertruck3r · 06/08/2017 15:18

If it is not on the inventory just chuck it. If she cared about it so much she would have put it on the inventory. She wants to have her cake and eat it. Rent out a property to you under the belief that you can use the loft and then when you ask her to remove her stuff, she will suddenly tell you that you have to put up with it after the fact.

If you do chuck it out and it is not on the inventory it is very unlikely she will be able to do anything. She might have even forgotten it is up there. Still, not your problem and she should have done her due diligence better when renting out the house and loft space which you are paying for.

vEGANvERA · 06/08/2017 15:33

wtf with all the nasty posters - remember this thread 1st time around - been lurking about here for years but i honestly think i am done

gammaraystar Sun 06-Aug-17 15:10:30
Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house

rtft gammar, it was never about renting vs buying

andbabymakesthree · 06/08/2017 15:38

Was just noticing it was a zombie so ask forwarded to the end.

I just don't understand these landlords using their rental properties as storage. A friend has a mish mash of furniture and old hoovers etc and no garage orloft. Ridiculous!

JustGettingStarted · 06/08/2017 17:02

I thought the reactions the first time around were funny and thought it would be amusing to revive the thread and say that I was right the first time: they've never removed the stuff.

I was thinking about it because recently had a reason to want more storage (getting a chest freezer and want to move some stuff where it will go). But since we are not going to break into the shed I think we'll just be taking some of our own stuff to the tip and reorganising the rest.

ButchyRestingFace · 06/08/2017 17:17

Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house?

Are you the landlord in question? Shock

Allthebestnamesareused · 06/08/2017 17:27

I would just contact the LL and say that you ned the storage space now and could she possibly move it.

Initially she may have left it because there was nowhere to move it to and she may also have thought that you'd be a short term renter. Now it is clear you are there for the long term she will probably be more amenable to moving it.

I am in the same (reverse) situation in that I let my former ho,me out and there is some of our stuff still in the loft (my old vinyl etc). We do not have a loft here and I'd be gutted if the tenant threw it all away without checking but if he wanted it gone I would find a way of getting it stored elsewhere.

PS> my tenant is male so I know its not you!

SpuriouserAndSpuriouser · 06/08/2017 17:30

Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house?

Holy fuck, what a horrible attitude!

OP will she also not agree to putting the boxes in storage (paid for by her, obviously)? I can understand that you want to chuck it, especially after two sodding years, but personally I wouldn't have the heart.

JustGettingStarted · 06/08/2017 17:37

I'm not irritated like I was on moving day when I started this thread. I'm irked, yes, but I was damn near seeing red when I started the thread, having just hauled the camping gear upstairs and discovered the loft full of their crap.

I agreed at the time that it may have been an innocent mistake, but remember that the shed was blatantly being used as their storage (and it had been mentioned on the Rightmove listing as a feature.) Sure enough, she has turned out to be one of those landlords who thinks it is my privilege to pay for her storage space.

Getoutofthatgarden · 06/08/2017 18:51

Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house?

Wow, what a nasty person you are.

ThymeLordIsSpartacus · 06/08/2017 18:58

I remember this thread the first time round. OP honestly, just bin the stuff! You've stored it for the woman, for free, for two years! Get rid and breathe a sigh of relief.

Maybe if you spent as much energy on earning a living as you do moaning about your LLs on here you would be able to buy your own house?

As for comments like that, what a grade A twat you must be to come out with things like that.

JustGettingStarted · 06/08/2017 20:59

I wish I could earn enough money to buy a house after only expending the energy I spent on a few hours of cathartic venting over a two year period.

AccioMerlot · 07/08/2017 08:54

I suppose if you wanted to be all moral about it, you could shift it all to a storage unit and send her the bill.

Bet she'd be quicker to remove her crap when it's her paying for storage not you. She's had two years for free.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 07/08/2017 08:57

PS> my tenant is male so I know its not you!

Well @Allthebestnamesareused unless they have been your tenant since 2015 it wouldn't be them anyway!