AIBU to really not like the word Chav ?

[Frequentblooper]

I've seen a few threads now where people use this word to describe others who I guess they feel are beaneth them ? The problem I have with this is I know these people may well view me as a "Chav" I certainly have all the background of one (although my eyebrows are normal) and although I work I can't afford my own house so I rent and I can't afford the best clothes so j have to shop at places like "select" etc also members of my family who I love could also be described as a "Chav". I think it's hate speech from middle and upper classes. I would like to say please can people not use it. I know it may be not meant in hatred but when I read that my heart sinks a little

Yes Eyorstail and I am from Chatham too so in the 90s when the first uses the word started I was that stereotypical "chav" The council state I grew up in the school I went to the way I dressed how I speak. Now I live in a nice village but I still speak the same I'm not going to change myself. I guess if I was to describe my younger self it would be like Rose Tyler from Doctor Who.

As for the dummy thread I breastfed both my children mainly because it was cheaper and healthier I tried the dummy thing so I could get some rest from it but that never worked for me but some mentioned on the dummy thread it was a Chavie thing to do to give a dummy ? ok ?

I work violet and I've no chance of being able to buy a house ever my rent is way higher I'm guessing then some peoples mortgages. I'm not on any kind of income that was make you a middle class person or background. All of my family work apart from a few cousins that went the wrong way with drugs. I don't have a council house because I decided to keep my dog so I went privately I managed to get my daughter into a grammar school to try and better her future and chances in life but I feel so squashed down. When I first moved to the village I'm at now I was told by my neighbour that I did not belong here that I belonged on a council estate and I found it very hard to make friends with the mums at the school perhaps it's a triple my arm shoulder but I have felt look down upon. The local vicar has been really helpful to me when I've been down about this. Anyway all I can do is reiterate that I might not be that stereotypical chav but when I read it I feel defensive and prickly and it makes me feel bad because I know I don't belong to the people who think they're better. It's interesting isn't it I don't actually know where I belong is there anyone else like me? I've really enjoyed listening to other people's points of view on this matter

Yanbu. Chav is used by people thinking they are superior to others, when of course they're not.

Alehouse I see your point and also I love primark haha !

Autumn leaves I definitely sometimes where my pyjamas to do the school run but I don't think anyone notices are not obvious! I mainly do this because I change into a onesie or pjs when I'm at work because it's way more comfortable stops me getting a stomachache as I do nights and I'm on shit alone and then I either go to Asda like this or or on a school morning home directly to the school run I couldn't give a toss what other people think to be honest they need to mind their own business my comfort comes first and my onesie is actually an outdoor onesie and it's from Marks & Spencer is does that make a difference LOL ?

Oh yeah, I understand Blooper. I'm a single mother in rented accommodation with a son in grammar school and I always feel quite uncomfortable/ out of place around the other parents as their lifestyles are so very different to mine.
What you've been through in your village is awful- you know there are stupid, ignorant people that think this way but to actually express these feelings to you verbally, is beyond belief. They sound vile! But know that you're far superior to them as you don't share their bigoted nasty attitudes

Haha that's shift not shit ! And chip on my shoulder not triple my shoulder !

Yes apricot it was a huge row that I have to say I stood my ground and one and I did say do you think you're better than me because you have been given a house. The neighbour was actually saying I've got a better house and you have got a better job than you that I was a slut and a whore I never even have a man in that house ! I said she was jealous and mad i'm ashamed to say I did also say that she would get a brick up the head ! Not violent but I was scared! They went in first what I stood outside so I must've won the argument because ever since then I've had no more problems and they are known bullies! I have to say my hands were shaking so I kept them on the wall. This all came about because I asked the mother to come outside because she had been batting with a baseball bat her cooking apples from their tree over into my garden and one apple nearly hit my youngest who was one years old in the face! I've put up with a lot until that moment snowballs coming over and stuff like that their children in my garden staring in through my window writing on my fence in chalk banging on my walls accusing me of all sorts of stuff! I feel I need to come across strong otherwise it will continue because I know they did that to that idea is there before me as she was Terrorised to she moved out. I've never had a fight or generally threat physical violence but obviously I grew up in that environment and I was feeling so defensive because my baby had been nearly been hit in the face by a massive apple and she was over the other side of the fence giving it large !

Oh and I also remember calling her the honeymonster which i was quite proud of ! It's been peaceful since then 4years later no more aggravation from them !

yanbu

and you will get people tell you they are not looking down on others and only use it to describe someone's behaviour

many on mn are preoccupied with class what is MC and what is chav like many desperate to be seen as MC

Chav is an appalling word and is such a nasty way to describe anyone.
It doesn't reflect at all well on the user though. Vulgar would be my best retort.

I prefer to think of things less as which class and more on what moral compass you are on

Yanbu. It means council house and vulgar. This country is calling out for council houses. Proper council houses.

Where I live, the ex council houses go for more than the new builds, because they are close to town and were built well.

I never use it. I think it is derogatory and snobbish and a way of expressing your displeasure that the working classes don't know their place any more.

I don't feel it now because I live in a large migrant community and they see me as the resident 'white person'. Growing up, that was not the case at all. I grew up in a small rural town and it was keenly felt that certain sectors of the Anglo community (even though I have a very Anglo surname) looked down on my whole family for reasons I couldn't fathom at the time. My parents were well employed as teachers, church going etc. The only kids I could make friends with were the grandkids of war refugees from Europe. I kind of started realising why when I dreamily told a friend of mine that a neighbour in her fifties that she knew and had just talked to looked like she could be gypsy. I didn't see anything bad in that. My friend told the neighbour later and apparently the neighbour hit the roof and said I was one to talk, that I looked like a 'gypsy brat' and was always on the street/muckjng about with horses (true). She saw it as a really bad thing to be thought of and then I kind of realised. Gave me paranoia for a long time esp. with all developments in ME and GWOT (still does actually).

I don't dress flashy but I still get those looks if I go to my hometown. It sucks.

Tbh, I am very meh about this. I am a chav, in the original sense of the word: my grandparents and my father refer to me as o chavo, which just means "the boy" in Romani.

In so far as the word is used now? No, meh. Its modern reference is not necessarily synonymous with "a poor upbringing"- I grew up on a council estate as a Rom, pretty much archetypally chavvy, but now I teach Latin in a grammar school (and have just outed myself)- I challenge anyone to call me a chav.

"Chavdom" is a state of mind.

I hate the word chav, it smacks of lazy, pejorative language. I judge people who use it, I judge them stupidly superior in the worst way.

I actually had a screaming argument about it once, she threw me out of her house. She lost. Because she couldn't use language and she hated people.

So are you a Romany boy Fifth?