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AIBU?

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To be absolutely fucking fuming that DS2 has been sent home from nursery with impetigo?

103 replies

AwfulCuntForTheButter · 11/11/2015 23:57

The staff were incredibly cavalier about it and said 'it's been going about for a few days'.

They're quick enough to call whenever they want money, but they couldn't let parents know about something highly contagious?

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TheWildRumpyPumpus · 12/11/2015 09:02

What would you have done differently if you'd known it was going around nursery? You can't keep them off every time there's a contagious illness going around or they'd never be there, and you'd never be at work!

Our nursery used to put a note on the front door stating which room had which illness.

snowgirl1 · 12/11/2015 09:09

Did they put a note up to make parents aware it was 'going about'. Our nursery do this for anything potentially infectious - chicken pox, foot & mouth, headlice, worms. It doesn't stop us sending DD in, but it does mean we can watch out for symptoms and keep her off if we think she's picked it up so we don't spread it to others.

CurrerBellend · 12/11/2015 09:25

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BabyGanoush · 12/11/2015 09:33

impetigo is a pain, will your DC have to be home for a week (or 2) now?

Smoothyloopy · 12/11/2015 09:45

Humans,including kids, catch stuff off other humans. This is life!

Jeffreythegiraffe · 12/11/2015 09:46

Our nursery stick a piece of paper up or write on their fb page if anything infectious is going round.

But kids catch stuff, mine have been ill with one thing or another for the last 4 weeks.

Frusso · 12/11/2015 09:48

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HopefulHamster · 12/11/2015 10:36

Get a nanny and don't let her go to any baby/child groups if you don't want to come into contact with any illnesses. Better still don't let them go out at all. You probably shouldn't risk it either.

CFSsucks · 12/11/2015 10:49

YABU. DS got impetigo from school because some selfish parent was sending their child in with it. It's well known to be highly contagious but some parents don't like something like an infectious illness stopping them from carrying on with their normal routine.

RiverTam · 12/11/2015 11:02

The only thing DD has caught in nearly 3 years of nursery and just over a year of school was chickenpox. No nits, worms, d&v, impetigo or any of the other things on some pps lists. So it's not inevitable. The nursery were certainly very good at letting parents know if something was doing the rounds.

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Woobeedoo · 12/11/2015 16:12

My little boy caught impetigo from nursery - only it wasn't, it was actually hand, foot and mouth. He had the mouth part and a few days later, I caught the hand and foot part (and it was so bloody painful). If your feet start itching and burning like hell in a day or so, it's HF&M.

I look at nursery now as a germ soup that's helping to boost his immunity.

Narp · 12/11/2015 16:18

What would you have done if they had told you impetigo was going round?

I presume you could only have kept your eyes open to check for symptoms so as not to take him in and infect others.

Or are you saying you'd pull him out in case he caught it

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2015 16:22

AwfulCunt - I understand that it is annoying when your child catches something at nursery, but if you don't want your child around any other potentially contagious child, would you want the nursery to send your child home if they suspected that another child was coming down with something?

Would you be happy if the nursery sent your child home because they suspected your child might be coming down with something, and they didn't want to risk other children getting ill?

In both scenarios, you have to remember that, whilst nursery staff will do their best, they aren't medically trained, and may make a mistake - so you could end up with your child getting sent home unnecessarily - ie. If they sent your child home because they thought anger child was ill, but that child wasn't ill, or if they thought your child was coming down with something and sent them home (to prevent cross infection) but your child wasn't contagious.

MrsGradyOldLady · 12/11/2015 18:45

sdgt I think it depends what the illness is. The op said that nursery staff were aware that it was "doing the rounds" so yes, I think they should have made parents aware. For a cold I would have sent my children in regardless. But things like impetigo, worms, headlice etc I'd personally keep my child off. All of those things have no benefit to a child's immune system and they can be an absolute bugger to treat as everyone keeps on reinfecting each other.

My step daughter caught impetigo from school and had it for 2 weeks. And then she caught it again and had it for another 2 weeks. She has excema so is probably more prone to it but despite her mum and I bleaching the whole house and reapplying the cream, that's how long it took to clear up.

Worms is another pain in the arse (literally!). Everyone in the house has to be treated at the same time. All bedding and towels boil washed. And then the entire house damp dusted from top to bottom with antibac. And then repeat a week later. My house is quite big (and I'm quite lazy) so this normally doesn't get done on a weekly (or monthly) basis.

So I do think if the nursery are aware then parents should be informed. As I said up thread - none of my 3 caught any of these things at nursery so I don't think it should be "part and parcel" of mixing with other kids.

ProfGrammaticus · 12/11/2015 18:49

Yeah, they catch stuff. What would you have liked the nursery to do exactly?

5madthings · 12/11/2015 19:00

They catch stuff at nursery, toddler groups etc that's what happens.

The nurseries and pre schools and schools my kids are now up put up a sing when stuff like chickenpox or impetigo etc is going round, it means parents are aware and can keep an eye out for early symptoms/be a bit more vigilant and means those with compromised immunity etc or a need to be concerned ie preg women are informed and can choose to be careful etc. I thought it was standard practise to inform parents in this way, a newsletter or email would suffice.

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IoraRua · 12/11/2015 19:36

Oh good fucking lord, YABU.

You won't like it when your kid starts school, they catch everything (and so do we).

Lostcat2 · 12/11/2015 21:03

MrsGrady

Why on earth did you feel the need to damp dust the whole house? For thread worms? Seriously.

Treat everyone and wash sheets on a hot wash. Short nails. Wiping front to back and washing hands after toilet visit.
That's all you need to do.

MrsGradyOldLady · 12/11/2015 22:26

lostcat no that isn't all you need to do. My son has has worms 4 times (he's a nail biter).

Kid scratches their wormy arse in the middle of the night - they're probably asleep so don't realise - then touch various surfaces which transfers the eggs. Another person or child touches the same surface and then maybe bites their fingernail/cuticle/lucks their finger - whatever. That's how worms spread. Whether that's in a school or a home or a nursery. When you've got 5 people who live in the same home who between them bite their nails, bite their cuticles, suck their thumb, lick their fingers or smoke, you have to be sure to remove the eggs to prevent reinfection.

This is why if there's an outbreak in a nursery or school (at least in my fortunate experience) they will literally bleach every single surface.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2015 22:30

Maybe they should have made the parents aware, MrsGrady - but what would the OP have done with the information?

Unless she was willing to take her child out of nursery every time another child might be ill, or she might be in contact with infection, then just knowing about the ill child isn't going to reduce or remove the chance of her child becoming ill.

I would expect the nursery to have policies to try to reduce the risks of infection and cross infection - sending children home if they have a communicable disease, good hygiene practices - that sort of thing - but I imagine it is not always easy to enforce them - if a child seems well when dropped off, but becomes ill, or if the parents ignore signs of illness because they can't or won't take time off work (parents knowingly send sick children to school - I wouldn't be surprised if sick children were sent in to nursery). If this happens, I assume they'd call the parents to pick the child up, and to to keep the child apart from the other children in the meantime - but staffing levels may be tight, and it may be hard to find enough staff to isolate a child.

Add to that the fact that some illnesses are contagious before the symptoms emerge, and I can see why it is very hard for nurseries to stop illness running through the place. They should try, of course, and they should keep parents informed, so they know to look out for symptoms, but they are on,y human.

MrsGradyOldLady · 12/11/2015 22:36

And I wish I wasn't such an expert in the life cycle of worms but unfortunately, due to grim experience I've had to be. There's nothing like finding an inch long worm wriggling out of your own arse to focus your attention. I could probably write a thesis on the bastards.

MrsGradyOldLady · 12/11/2015 22:43

No stdg I would just expect that if a nursery knew a particular infectious disease was "doing the rounds" that they'd inform parents. That's all. I wouldn't expect them to diagnose or pre-empt anything. Just keep parents informed.

To be fair I'm probably a weirdo anyway. I know waay to much about worms and I also think of impetigo as a "dirty disease" due to the fact that it's linked to scabies and whilst clean people get it too, dirty people tend to not get rid of it. Like nits.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2015 22:56

I know, MrsGrundy - my question is, what could the OP do with the information?

I assume she wouldn't want to keep her child away from nursery every time a child there is ill - that could mean far too many days off - so she can keep an eye out for any symptoms, that's all.