To stop tipping?

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Just that really.

It's always so awkward and feels so patronizing. And now that the minimum wage is going up significantly surely employers should be paying their staff sufficiently?

Up until now I have always tipped - £10 to my hairdresser each month, 10% to taxi drivers, waiters, etc. but actually everything's so expensive anyway (£169 at the hairdressers this morning! ) that I kind of feel like I am paying enough already!

Is this really mean of me?! Do you all tip?

You can say that about any job though.

I'm sure you can, but I've never met a waitress who gets a performance review to negotiate a payrise!

And shit waitresses make a lot more work for the good ones.

Err if you live in London then you must have noticed that £6.70 an hour (minimum wage) isn't going to go far? Admittedly I lived in NYC for some years so have been influenced by that culture, but I would never consider not tipping (I don't tip based on quality of service) and imo you have to factor the price of a tip into services. I aim for 15% for hairdressers and waitresses, in London. £10 on a £169 haircut isn't enough - that's 6%! £20 is closer to the mark. If that adds up to too much, go to a cheaper salon. I also don't see what's awkward about tipping - it's an expected part of payment for the service.

Wow £169 for a hair cut! What did she cut th air with...gold scissors. Last hair cut cost me £0 as i visited local college to help the students re their portfolio, but don t think ive paid more than £10 when visited the normal hairdressers. Did tip last time but one, one mini eggs chocolate easter egg for £1. (Not twice a year hair cut). She seemed to really like it. Love my recent cut!

The most obvious difference between a cashier and a waitress is a cashier sits on a chair and you bring the stuff to her. A good waitress will welcome you, read you to see when you want to order, make suggestions, make sure you are enjoying the meal and have everything you need, clear up, offer and suggest desserts and coffees and sometimes make these herself if you order them, then take payment. She will do this to 12 or more tables at the same time.

Whereyouleftit-that doesn't happen here. HMRC only tax you on tips if you declare them or if you are part if a TRONC scheme.
I always feel really embarrassed tipping incase its not enough. I hate it.

If I can't afford to tip in a cafe or restaurant, then I don't go into the restaurant. A tip to the staff is part of the overall charge for the night I expect to pay.

(I won't go into those restaurants which take some or all of the service charge/tip, like Pain Quotidien or Cote.)

Not tipping would be a deal breaker with me for a prospective partner.

LOL at the competitive haircut cheapness.

So what if OP spends that amount, I imagine it includes colour and cut.

I spend £££ on my hairdresser, but buy food at Lidl

Some people have cleaners, pedicures, expensive bikes or like fine wine. Me, I like a great haircut.

Anyway OP, I get how you feel but I always feel I ought to tip, so I do.

The shampoo girl/boy is probably quite happy with a tip. As is any waiter.

I tip in restaurants, always. Unless its crap service, then I dont tip, (only happened a couple of times, I'm easily pleased) Never tip anywhere else. I don't tip my hairdresser, I pay enough for the cut in my opinion, and my hairdresser owns the salon.
If I get a taxi/have a take away delivered, I always say keep the change. Sometimes though, this is about 10p, so then I worry I'm being insulting.

"If you can't afford to tip you shouldn't go to a cafe or restaurant", I'm shocked at that viewpoint. Surely the staff would rather you went and gave the establishment your business anyway, as a drop in customers surely means a drop in staff numbers.
I hate tipping but feel obliged to sometimes. I feel stupid doing so when the employees earns more or similar to me. I expect my hairdresser earns more than me, so I give her something at Christmas or a present for a new baby, but not every time I go.
I think its patronising and demeaning to tip as it implys I have more money than the other person and I find that crass.

If you have long hair and get a full head of highlights with a cut and blow dry, that's easily £150 in a decent salon. If that's not what you do and/or don't need, want or can't afford to then that's fine. But some people, including me, do. And I'm happy to pay that and tip because it's not the owner who does my hair and the woman who does it does a great job.

Do people still tip if service has been included in restaurants?

No.

No

I only tip in restaurants if the service is good, I have no problem with not tipping if the service is poor, and I don't tip anywhere other than restaurants.

yeah £6.70 an hour is a vast improvement on before gone up 20p an hour that is such a significant amount. :( WTF would take over half a week just to pay for getting hair done where you get yours done.

Yes it was full highlights and a cut and blowdry, which I don't get done that often!

Wow I thought a £10 tip to the hairdresser was generous! Even if it does only work out at 6% or whatever. Would people really give £20?!

As for taxi drivers, the average London black taxi driver earns £70k per year I believe (although maybe that's gone down a bit now because of Uber...). Why should I tip someone who earns more than double the national average wage? As a PP said, it just seems a bit arbitrary.

I keep cash folded in to little squares in my phone case and in my wallet so I can hide it in my palm and tip with a handshake, takes all of the awkwardness away.

I dont tip. Never have done.

I worked in a shop as a shelf stacker which paid minimum wage and i didnt get tipped. My friend is a beautician and earned more than me per hour and yet she got tipped. I provided a service. If it wasnt for me the shop would be empty and people would have nothing to buy.

If you tip a cleaner or a carer why wouldnt you tip a hospital cleaner or nurse?

I tip in restaurants. I'll probably give my hairdresser something at Christmas because she's so lovely.

I sometimes round taxi fares, takeaways etc up to the nearest £... But that's about it.

I don't tip my hairdresser as she owns her salon but I do tip the girl who washes my hair - she does a wonderful head massage.

I resent tipping taxi drivers, the fare is on the meter and that's it as far as I am concerned.

And to say that the OP is extravagant and can afford to tip if she pays £169 for her hair is rather presumptuous - maybe she doesn't spend anything else on herself.

If you're in the UK (obviously don't know if you are or not) you are aware you don't HAVE to, aren't you?!
Tip if you want, don't tip if you don't want to. Your choice.

I worked in a shop as a shelf stacker ... I provided a service.

Well no, you didn't - you completed a task for your employer.

If the format was customer came in, gave you their shopping list and then sat in a waiting room drinking coffee while you collected their stuff from the shelves and brought it to them, you'd be providing a service.

Think of it as the difference between buffet and table service - I don't tip the person who fills up the buffet when I go and get my food; I do tip the waiting staff that bring my food to my table.

I think the whole tipping culture is absolutely ridiculous. Why extra money like a pat on the head for a job well done?
Then only an extra bung of money pat on the head to jobs deemed acceptable to tip to?

Why extra money like a pat on the head for a job well done?

As gratitude for a job well done when the job could have been done shittily?