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my dad spent inheritance on sex workers (thread title amended by MNHQ)

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 18:07

Ok - long thread, sorry, also name change for obv reasons

Background
Mum and Dad got together late seventies
Mum 9 years older and had 2 young DCs, was in abusive r ship with alcoholic, dad 'rescued her'
Mum and Dad married and went on to have me and DSIS
Had modest existence together, think working class, manual jobs, always provided the necessities for us all, no luxuries, happy childhood.
Both DSIS and I went onto Uni, we've both done professional vocational degrees, long courses, parents helped financially as much as they could.
My dad's parents passed away 10-15 years ago, dad inherited a reasonable wedge of cash ~ 100k
My DSIS was still living at home at the time and began to suspect that dad was not being honest- she found a spare mobile, lots of weird messages from other women, he'd disappear at weird times claiming his boss had called about an emergency at work. (There's loads of examples)
My sis confided in mum who brushed it off. Mum was very old school, very reliant on dad, he sorted finances, she never drove etc.
A few years later, a woman knocked on the door and told my mum she had been seeing my dad for 5 years. She admitted she was a prostitute and dad had been supporting her for all this time, buying her drugs and paying her rent. My mum kept this secret for a few years for fear of upsetting the family and forgave my dad who cut ties with the prostitute. At this point, he had spent all of their savings and the prostitute's pimp (sorry if that's not PC) was chasing my dad for more money. They left their (rented) house and fled to another address. That was that.
At the end of 2013, mum - who had carried burden for years- confided in me and my two sisters about this. She was very depressed and struggling to forgive him and was weighing her options. She decided, eventually, to stay with him although she felt little love for him. All really sad. We all offered for mum to come live with us. She begged for us to not tell dad we knew as he had said he would kill himself if the kids found out. Money was tight but they struggled along. Mum now not working as older and in poor health.
Six months later, mum was diagnosed with cancer and she passed away just ten weeks later.
Dad struggled to cope and would turn up at the hospice, pissed out of his head. I was seven months pregnant and wanted to knife him for what he'd done. It was obvious how strained things were between them, even in final stages.
Dad couldn't afford the funeral, we paid for it. I felt sick that after 30 years of marriage, he couldn't give his wife a funeral she deserved.
He's now living on benefits, is depressed and claiming DLA (PIP)
He is really struggling week to week, spending on booze and fags and eating crap. I've given him handouts monthly - small bits but I feel, deep down, so resentful about doing so.
I can't see him starve- my mum obv wanted to stand by him and I feel I should. I get fuck all emotionally from him. My DD is 9 mo and he has never bought her anything( this isn't me being materialistic, even a congrats on birth card would have been nice)
I guess this isn't AIBU, Im just wondering what you would do in this situation - continue as I am, (resenting every bit of him) as he's my father, or would you cut the bastard out??
I dunno, I guess the therapy is in writing this....
Thanks

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 19:48

My DH is amazing. He just wants me to be happy and supports my decisions re financial handouts. Then I feel guilty that half of his money is going to my dad etc and it makes me feel shit. Why can't I just have a normal family???

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Inertia · 13/10/2015 19:49

I think your mum would want you to look after your child, not your father.

He chose this. Over many years, over tens of thousands of pounds, through the suffering and death of your mother - he chose this. He chose to make your mother homeless and penniless so he could get his end away with desperate, abused women. You owe him nothing.

He still chooses alcohol and fags over food, over bothering to look after himself, over sending even the cheapest acknowledgement of the existence of his grandchild.

He chose to give up on his family when he turned up pissed to his dying wife's bedside. You cannot rescue him - he has to make the decision to start thinking about something or someone other than his own cravings. You need to make Christmas special for your child ; your father has long since checked out of his role as a parent and grandparent.

derxa · 13/10/2015 19:49

I don't always agree with AF but her first post is spot on. Your poor mum. You don't owe this man anything at all. You are feeling guilt at abandoning him and I understand that. He gave up fatherhood rights years ago.

ilovechristmas123 · 13/10/2015 19:49

op ask for the tread to be deleted

your getting a hard time and you dont deserve this on top of all your troubles

some just love to play the moral high card,regardless of the distress your feeling

good luck

AnyFucker · 13/10/2015 19:50

I would hope that your mum would be turning in her grave at history perpetuating itself via the medium of you

derxa · 13/10/2015 19:52

You do have a normal family. Your lovely DH and DC.

SensAbility · 13/10/2015 19:56

It's a shame that you didn't try and get some support from AA or a mental health organisation because they also support family members, with out making judgement.
As great as Mumsnet is, it is not a very supportive site for someone in your kind of situation, as you have found from some of your answers.
If your Father is in receipt of DLA, I'm guessing that he has been assessed for either a physical or mental disability? If that's the case does he have a health team, social worker, support worker of some kind who can offer him the support so that you and your sister don't have to?
Although it sounds like you and your sister had supportive parents in your early childhood, it might be that the experiences you had re your Father's behaviours and the sad death of your Mum, has had quite an impact on you and I would suggest that you might benefit from some personal counselling. Your GP should be able to arrange this for you. And the AA also has a counselling services for family members too.
Only you can decide if continuing a relationship with your Father, would be positive for you and your family but a counsellor could help you to understand what you are feeling so that you can make better decisions.
This site is too massive in numbers and content really to really give you the support you need.
Good luck x

Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 19:56

Wow- the last few posters have been lovely, thank you. I guess, selfishly, I'm looking for people to sympathize with me. I know that sounds pathetic but it is bottled inside and I guess you reevaluate family values once DCs come along, prompting this outburst from me today. My poor DH has discussed this with me a million times and irl, I'd be mortified to discuss this with even the closest of friends. It helps to have support from you.
ilovechristmas - thanks, I've asked MHNQ to amend title but a few posters have now been really kind and suggested ways forward so will delay deletion for a little while!

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Senpai · 13/10/2015 19:58

We had a very similar situation with my FIL, minus the hooker. Just all take and no give in any relationship.

We ended up leaving him to his own devices after MIL died. He went through a rough patch, but I dare say he's happier now that he's learned to be self sufficient and take of himself. You catering to your father is doing no one any favors, including him.

He made a bit of a dramatic change with DD though. I think something clicked in his head, because he loves the ever living shit out of that girl.

Your father probably won't come around, or he may. But he won't change if you keep enabling this constant.

Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 20:03

anyfucker - could you expand on this, in particular, the history repeating itself bit? Thanks

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Inertia · 13/10/2015 20:06

His shame and guilt are not your burdens to carry. But It does sound as though you'd benefit from the opportunity to discuss this with someone professional and detached. There's a heck of a lot of grief packaged up in this situation - the sad loss of your mother of course, but also the family relationships you hoped to build for your child.

It seems as though sending money would actually be counterproductive, given his addictions, and I think your suggestion of sending a food delivery is sensible.

Yarboosucks · 13/10/2015 20:07

OP - I completely understand you choice of thread title and username. I would suggest that during a sober time, you speak to you dad about this. You may find that relieving him of his secret actually helps the situation. He did wrong and he was probably also taken advantage of by the prostitutes, pimps and pushers. He may, in some horribly misguided sort of way, been thinking that eh was helping. That he put this woman (women) ahead of his own family was very wrong and foolish. Tell him that you know of his threat to kill himself, but TBH it sounds like he is killing himself, just very slowly This is a horrible situation and you have my full sympathy. Seems to me that he is playing the whore now and to an extent you are repeating history. Break the cycle and have an honest relationship with your dad before it is too late - and an honest relationship could extend to no relationship! But you need to talk and give him sole ownership of his failings as a husband and father.

whataboutbob · 13/10/2015 20:09

In my opinion you could walk away from him without any need whatsoever to feel guilty. But it is not rational a rational feeling (ie blameless people can feel guilty) and counselling can help to free you from guilt.
Unless he does some work on himself (and I can't see any signs of that from your posts) there is the very real risk he will just leech off you, please don't allow that to happen. You, your DC and DH deserve better.

YouTheCat · 13/10/2015 20:10

Your dm probably felt obliged to support your father because she married him. Maybe she had some misguided sense of guilt over sex or something and felt (wrongly) that she'd pushed your father to use sex workers.

That doesn't mean you have to support him now.

Don't let your own family miss out to support a man who doesn't seem to have offered much support to anyone in the last 15 years.

whataboutbob · 13/10/2015 20:11

Sorry about the typo in the 2nd sentence. I like what Inertia and Yarboo have written and I hope you find some of the suggestions helpful.

Parsley1234 · 13/10/2015 20:14

My dad did the same but with gay sex workers. My heart goes out to you crack and while the pc brigade berate you for un pc language I really get it - I really do. You can pm me if you want I did try and build bridges with my dad after he not one but twice used money left to me for his own needs then when he destroyed my mums will and spent all the cash on sex workers there was no money for a funeral I did pay for it and I did scatter his ashes well and I was also empathetic to his 27 year old sex worker bf. I did it all and did the best I could without bitterness but any respect left for my dad - no none.

derxa · 13/10/2015 20:17

I think he is one of life's creaking gates. He seems to be at death's door but goes on and on and on causing eternal misery.

Blodss · 13/10/2015 20:17

There is another thread about father using crack whores. Is it connected?

Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 20:18

parsley - sorry that you've been through similar. Sounds like you were incredibly strong. It's amazing how far a supposed parent can push your loyalties without that bond breaking although it really really hurts.

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 20:19

blodss - first time I've posted on this. Maybe it's my sister...??!! Shit!
If you have a link, would like to read!

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 20:22

blods just realized, you may be talking about my thread- I posted earlier using the term crack whores but have since changed it... Sorry for being dumb, head spinning at the moment!

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Blodss · 13/10/2015 20:23

O got it. Same thread.

chicaguapa · 13/10/2015 20:24

I don't know that it was loyalty that kept your DM with him. Maybe she would admire you for your strength in not putting up with it like she did?

You could speculate for days, but you need to focus on the now and what's best for your family tbh.

BarbRoyle · 13/10/2015 20:25

I agree with Yarboo. Talking would be good. He may open up and either, make u hate him more or help you understand a bit. You may hate/resent him forever but it could really help you (and your sisters) decide how to approach things.

Parsley1234 · 13/10/2015 20:28

Hello crack I wasn't strong I was fucking RAGING ! Best bit was when I found he had equity released his home and was the same in debt again on sex workers, and when his bf turned up 27 my dad was 77 who was there for what he cd get- there was nothing nothing left all my grandmas beautiful stuff gone sold, also my sons grandparents wanting to come to funeral and me having to tell them it wasn't going to happen , his sister berating me for not telling her he was dead and me having to say well you know the man you thought you knew well listen up ! It was terrible terrible and the worst bit was the pervading sense of shame I felt - look after yourself it is a terrible mess but not of your making. Have some sympathy and empathy and hugs from me xxxxx