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my dad spent inheritance on sex workers (thread title amended by MNHQ)

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 18:07

Ok - long thread, sorry, also name change for obv reasons

Background
Mum and Dad got together late seventies
Mum 9 years older and had 2 young DCs, was in abusive r ship with alcoholic, dad 'rescued her'
Mum and Dad married and went on to have me and DSIS
Had modest existence together, think working class, manual jobs, always provided the necessities for us all, no luxuries, happy childhood.
Both DSIS and I went onto Uni, we've both done professional vocational degrees, long courses, parents helped financially as much as they could.
My dad's parents passed away 10-15 years ago, dad inherited a reasonable wedge of cash ~ 100k
My DSIS was still living at home at the time and began to suspect that dad was not being honest- she found a spare mobile, lots of weird messages from other women, he'd disappear at weird times claiming his boss had called about an emergency at work. (There's loads of examples)
My sis confided in mum who brushed it off. Mum was very old school, very reliant on dad, he sorted finances, she never drove etc.
A few years later, a woman knocked on the door and told my mum she had been seeing my dad for 5 years. She admitted she was a prostitute and dad had been supporting her for all this time, buying her drugs and paying her rent. My mum kept this secret for a few years for fear of upsetting the family and forgave my dad who cut ties with the prostitute. At this point, he had spent all of their savings and the prostitute's pimp (sorry if that's not PC) was chasing my dad for more money. They left their (rented) house and fled to another address. That was that.
At the end of 2013, mum - who had carried burden for years- confided in me and my two sisters about this. She was very depressed and struggling to forgive him and was weighing her options. She decided, eventually, to stay with him although she felt little love for him. All really sad. We all offered for mum to come live with us. She begged for us to not tell dad we knew as he had said he would kill himself if the kids found out. Money was tight but they struggled along. Mum now not working as older and in poor health.
Six months later, mum was diagnosed with cancer and she passed away just ten weeks later.
Dad struggled to cope and would turn up at the hospice, pissed out of his head. I was seven months pregnant and wanted to knife him for what he'd done. It was obvious how strained things were between them, even in final stages.
Dad couldn't afford the funeral, we paid for it. I felt sick that after 30 years of marriage, he couldn't give his wife a funeral she deserved.
He's now living on benefits, is depressed and claiming DLA (PIP)
He is really struggling week to week, spending on booze and fags and eating crap. I've given him handouts monthly - small bits but I feel, deep down, so resentful about doing so.
I can't see him starve- my mum obv wanted to stand by him and I feel I should. I get fuck all emotionally from him. My DD is 9 mo and he has never bought her anything( this isn't me being materialistic, even a congrats on birth card would have been nice)
I guess this isn't AIBU, Im just wondering what you would do in this situation - continue as I am, (resenting every bit of him) as he's my father, or would you cut the bastard out??
I dunno, I guess the therapy is in writing this....
Thanks

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GuybrushThreepwoodMP · 13/10/2015 18:37

Ok so we're all agreed that the OP's language is offensive. I'm sure she'll rethink both get language and her attitude in future, right OP?
But she might like some advice about what she should actually do as well as all the reactionary pearl-clutching (and yes, I am one of the pearl clutchers, as you can see above).

jorahmormont · 13/10/2015 18:37

I think the OP's choice of terminology shows how upset she is feeling about this all - a few people have already pointed out that it's not the best choice of words, but that is clearly not enough and we will have a thread full of "You shouldn't use the term crack whore" because apparently, saying it five times isn't enough.

OP I hope you get some good advice on this thread,it sounds like a very upsetting situation Flowers

Seeyounearertime · 13/10/2015 18:38

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Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 18:39

Thanks all. Agree the terminology used is disrespectful and knee jerk on my behalf. I certainly do not have that attitude to women as one poster implied, for goodness sake.

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Tonkatol · 13/10/2015 18:40

I guess I'm less easily offended than some others, but I feel too many people here are being too judgemental. I would advise you to seek some counselling for yourself - you need to be able to discuss your feelings and thoughts with someone neutral and I'm not sure you have come to terms with your mother's death. One thing - you may never get the answers you want, and may not even know what you want, but I would try and talk to your father about the whole situation. Better to at least have the conversation with him than to leave it until he is no longer alive and then wish you could ask him all the questions. Hope you find a solution or at least peace with yourself.

Wizzysmum1 · 13/10/2015 18:52

Sounds horrific for you and hard to forgive and walking way would be so understandable!
Typical of some on here to focus on your distressed stated and language to be offended by rather than your situation!

Pseudo341 · 13/10/2015 18:59

Do not give him any more money. If you want to give him anything then give him food. Personally my instinct is that you should walk away but I've never been in a position to need to do that and I'm not sure that I could if it came down to it. All I can think to suggest is that you make any help you give him conditional on him trying to help himself. If he can stay sober you'll send him some food or something like that. Not sure if that's likely to be effective but it's all I can think of. If you're not going to cut him out I think you should tell him that you know about the prostitute, I think you have a better chance of improving the situation if things are out in the open.

whataboutbob · 13/10/2015 18:59

I don't think the OP needs a ticking off about correct terminology right now. But maybe after she's had a sit down she'll come back as myfatherusescommercialsexworkers?
OP I'd be tempted to say do not spend too much time, emotion and money on him. The sad truth is he has multiple addictions and therefore will act selfishly most of the time. Maybe you want him to be a father, you have lost your mother after all. As an outsider I obviously don't know how much of a father he can be, but i'm inclined to say you need to protect yourself from him.
I agree counselling is likely to be worthwhile. I had nearly 2 years of it, really didn't want to but my situation with my Dad and my brother (involving mental illness for both of them and me being sole carer) was so stressful i was permanently ruminating on it and it was affecting my kids, marriage and work. I can honestly say I feel a different person now in many ways. I no longer have fantasies of rescuing them.I have worked hard to put in place services for them and now I feel entirely at peace, not guilty, not victimised.
I hope you can get to a similar point. Counselling was the way forward for me.

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet · 13/10/2015 19:07

Hello OP
Do let us know if you'd like us to change your thread title. won't you?
Thanks
MNHQ

AnyFucker · 13/10/2015 19:08

I can (just) get past your terminology to see you are full of bitterness and anger.

I think you need to cut your father off completely. He made his choices a long time ago and doesn't give a shit about you and yours.

He is a grown man...stop pretending he is a decent one underneath and that you could have any respect for him at all

Cut him loose. If he drinks himself to death, so be it. You are not his keeper and you are certainly not his mother or his wife. His responsibility is to himself as yours is to you.

Outcomesthebunnyofdeath · 13/10/2015 19:09

Add message | Report | Message poster Seeyounearertime Tue 13-Oct-15 18:38:43
Also, I'd tell him you know everything. If he kills himself, it'll save you money come Christmas and birthday and will get rid of the worry etc.

Really?!

AnyFucker · 13/10/2015 19:12

I concur with that

One less prostitute using abuser in this world can only be a Good Thing.

CheesyDibbles · 13/10/2015 19:12

So, OP has clearly had a heartbreaking experience and all people can do is berate her for her terminology? Seriously? The number of derogatory, vulgar words I have read on MN for hapless partners are limitless. Nobody seems bothered when they are urging someone to LTB. Give her a break ffs.

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AnyFucker · 13/10/2015 19:13

Unfortunately I think it highly unlikely he would do op the favour of shuffling off this mortal coil.

Sweetsweetjane · 13/10/2015 19:20

I have an alcoholic dad. I barely ever see him because I find it too depressing. I would cut him out entirely but his family guilt me into staying in touch with him. Fortunately he lives far away from me so his behaviour barely impacts on my life.
He spent a ten k inheritance on booze, drugs and unscrupulous cronies then tried to tap me up for cash, no way am I ever going to support him financially.
Your story is really sad, especially the way you lost your mum and all the crap she had to deal with. At the risk of sounding trite, perhaps counselling might help?

fulldutypaid · 13/10/2015 19:20

It was your mothers decision to stay with him OP.

Stop giving him money.

Crack Whore :/ Change this.

BonnieF · 13/10/2015 19:23

What's wrong with 'crack whore'?

It's concise, descriptive, informative and rolls off the tongue nicely. Percussive consonants followed by silky vowels. Nice one.

As for dad, he's a waste of oxygen.

Sweetsweetjane · 13/10/2015 19:24

Oh and I don't know if my dad ever used prostitutes but I do remember the day that I found out that him and his then wife were avid porn fans, standing alongside my dad in the street while he talked to his porn dealer, discussing the latest film they'd enjoyed.(obviously before t'interweb) Horrid.
Ugh the things I could tell you! It's one of the hardest things to learn that your parents are less than worthy of their pedestals :(

gobbynorthernbird · 13/10/2015 19:24

OP, I think NC is your only choice here.

Re the terminology, I think (and this applies to lots of threads where derogatory language is used towards other women) it certainly shows a certain attitude as to who is to blame. I know I'm guilty of it myself IRL.

Crackwhoreloverdad · 13/10/2015 19:26

I've never actually considered counseling for myself... Thanks for the suggestion, I guess I didn't feel I was worthy of it - I thought it was something my mum could have pursued, had she lived. Something to ponder, definitely.
As for what to do with regards him, I think I might start sending a tesco shop fortnightly whilst I think about father long term. I just keep thinking that mum would have wanted me to look out for him and I owe it to her to do that.
Only yesterday I was feeling guilty that I wouldn't be inviting him for Xmas day as we have the in laws staying and we alternate xmas between my family and DH's. Think I've just mentally blocked out what he has done but then I get big sudden jolts of bitterness and anger.

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winewolfhowls · 13/10/2015 19:28

So sad for your mum, this story. Agree with others to leave him to it, otherwise he will just drag you down emotionally and mentally.

Not bothered about your use of crack whore I'm sure it's as you say a kneejerk phrase.

winewolfhowls · 13/10/2015 19:29

I think your mum would want you to look after yourself, rather than your dad

lavenderhoney · 13/10/2015 19:42

Sounds like a novel by Martina Cole, less the mafia.

Stop giving him money, you need it for your daughter. What does your dh/ do think? As its his money too?

Your DM choices were her choices. I see your dilemma, but you have a child who doesn't deserve to go without now or in the future because of it. If he is emotionally blackmailing you, then post about that. Otherwise it's mistaken family support and one has to draw a line.

Carmex · 13/10/2015 19:46

Also sad for your mum, poor women. What she must have gone through...

I do think that you should cut dad free, he is obviously in self destruct mode, and will pull you down with him if you let him.

Do not show him kindness just because you think that is what your mum would have wanted, she sounds like she was a family women, she would not be happy with how is treating you.