To think that a labracockapoodle is a mongrel

[voluptuagoodshag]

So why can't folk just say so. Or would that be to justify the extortionate amount they paid for it so they don't come across as mugs.

My ddog is 15, he is a crossbred/mongrel of unknown origin. When he finally dies ( still going strong) and i feel strong enough to get another dog I will not purchase a pedigree or a crossbred deliberately bred by a breeder. I will not directly or indirectly contribute to the encouragement of dog breeding whilst the over supply of dogs and the number being pts is so horrendous. No genuine dog lover should get a dog that isn't a rescue until rescue centres are closing down because they are empty.

I suppose I'm even more after a friend of mine paid thousands to have a labradoodle (?) flown in from interstate because oh, they don't shed and are so lovely and she's from a line of excellent parents. Well, that dog was the most neurotic, bad-tempered creature I'd ever met. She eventually palmed it off on her cousin and now wants a sausage dog.

I have a cross breed, Every time I meet another dog owner they ask what he is, who his parents were ... i dont volunteer it. There is an obsession and some snobbery out there! He is also well trained, loves kid, and makes us laugh with his sill ways.... He barks at the kids til they fetch him a teddy or tea! And they do!!

Poodles crossed with anything are cool. The crossing with Labradors tend to stop them stinking. I've never understood why people like labs. Lovely personalities but they smell horrible!

Give me something with mixed breeding any day. I'd rather search for a while and have a rescue than pay hundreds for something specifically bred.

"it's creating a demand for puppies with that 'branding'"

What "branding?" You think there's a creative team sitting around in some city penthouse office at Saatchi's, hatching the next campaign for mixed breeding?
In my experience, people see a dog they like the look of, or know someone who's already got one, make enquiries, and if the "breed" suits their set up, will look to getting one, perhaps. I really can't imagine that anyone thinks, "Hmm, I'd like an expensive dog with a stupid name that I can show off with, let me google some. Ah, 'Crockashit,' that will do."

What "branding?" You think there's a creative team sitting around in some city penthouse office at Saatchi's, hatching the next campaign for mixed breeding?"

Not exactly. But some breeds get incredibly trendy- labradoodles were the in dog for quite a while. And when anything gets trendy there is a rush to fulfil demand. Which usually isn't good for whatever the thing is.

While we're on the subject, what about ragdoll cats? Half Persian, half Siamese.

Its interesting. If dogs chose their own mate, there would be all varieties about Nature would do its job at selecting the best survivors. Its only humans that force the pedigree issue. With the doodles, they are what a lot of people were asking for, a none shedding dog ... my DC have asthma and the poodle crosses are perfect. We have only ever had crosses usually from pounds, but this is the first pup due to the kids being under 7 at that time.

With the doodles, they are what a lot of people were asking for, a none shedding dog and this belief is a large part of the problem. Some are non-shedding but many are not, hence so many of them end up being rehomed (if they are lucky) when people find out that their non-shedding dog actually sheds like a labrador.

No, clam, there doesn't have to be a marketing agency involved. But way to miss the point.

Yes, I agree, some breeds are trendy for a while. The current trend is pugs, but because they are pedigrees no one bats an eyelid. So it's apparently a terrible thing for there to have been a labradoodle trend, but the current pugs trend is okay?! Health wise if you compare the two dogs, labradoodles win hands down. Pugs cost a lot more than labradoodles do too. I'll stick with my 'doodle thanks!

Borders seem to be trendy at the moment.......

DH wanted a border .. bit having seen that they are on the go for hours, and need constant attention, i said no, glad i did!! Dogs arent just dogs they have different needs.., and just arent suitable to every home.

So if people want a non-shedding dog.... why not cut to the chase and buy a poodle ?

In my experience, Borders are pretty adaptable. But the are pretty needy. Ours is jealous of the telly.........

My Border is presently asleep, having taken herself to the foot of the bed at 9 pm last night. Sleeping 12 hrs + is not uncommon. By the same token, she will happily walk hours. Most days we're out two or three times for walks of varying lengths (or one long walk), with some playing inside. But I don't find her especially demanding - ten minutes here and there for a game of tug, building obedience into my routine (e.g. make a cup of tea, she does a sit for the duration), coming out and about with me where it's practical.

They don't have the hyperactivity of e.g. a springer.

poodles don't have to look like twats

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If the human race was wiped out and dogs survived, in few generations I expect all dogs would be sort of medium sized, no squashy faces, no hip problems, maybe a bit like dingos or African wild dogs. Most bred characteristics are just to suit human whims and fashion.

Well personally I didn't get a poodle mainly because I don't like the look of them. Much prefer my crossbreed in looks. She's loads cuter than a poodle.

I think that Mongrel is actually offensive to dogs. They prefer the term Bitsa. As in Bits of this and that..

I actually wanted a pure poodle because I love them and I'd have wanted one that looked like a twat too but dh didn't and because he does at least as many of the walks as I do then agreed to compromise. He would have wanted a cavalier king charles spaniel but I didn't want the hair shedding.
A friend of a friend had poodle shih tzu crosses and he was incredibly cute and non shedding so we have Eric. He looks like a shih tzu which keeps dh happy but he's pure poodle temperament which I love.

Personally I'd have a true "mutt" over any pedigree or new crossbreed any day of the week but they are now almost impossible to find. We recently lost our old mongrel and are looking for a new dog but can't find any suitable dogs in rescues near us. They're are full of staffies and huskies which aren't for us.