To think that a labracockapoodle is a mongrel

[voluptuagoodshag]

So why can't folk just say so. Or would that be to justify the extortionate amount they paid for it so they don't come across as mugs.

Tabula, couldn't agree more

littlefrench- But are you equally not better off with a carefully bred 'labradoodle,' over a badly bred, puppy farmed poodle or lab? If so, then does this not just prove my point that actually it's more to do with the breeder as opposed to the breed?

Also, surely a labradoodle has got to be better than a vast number of pedigrees? Shar pei, king Charles spaniel, pug, bull dog, to name but a few?

I currently have a 'labradoodle' and a cairn terrier. The cross breed is lovely, a great mix of both breeds. The cairn isn't typical of the breed at all, and has had six major operations in the last two years, and is currently awaiting test results for almost definite Cushings disease- he's only 8, and was as well bred as possible. Cairns don't even fall into the unhealthy pedigree category, so god knows what those dogs are faced with!

I love my dogs obviously, they are both brilliant, but I know which one I'd have again next time, in a heartbeat! I'd pay four times what i paid for him, he's a dream dog!

We have a wonderful labradoodle. She's the lab temperament without greediness, and a poodle's intelligence. What's not to like?

I thought mongrels were people from Mongrolia.

Does anyone else feel that pure dog breeds and the exclusive breeding in their own group feels a little incestuous and, in humans, would look rather racist?

You right op but as its a mix of breeds in theory it should be healthier as the Gene pool is wider. The label is just to make money and people could get one from a rescue place.

"You right op but as its a mix of breeds in theory it should be healthier as the Gene pool is wider."

Except poodles and labs share some inherited conditions, so health is just as big of an issue as it would be for either breed alone.

Hoplikeabunny - yes it is mostly about the breeder, but it's a damn sight easier to find a good breeder of labs or poodles than it is labradoodles...because there's no real reason to be breeding then other than to sell on and they go for about twice what either parent breed does so they're basically bad breeder magnets.

You've also got the fact that they might not turn out anything like what you were expecting, which admittedly most people won't be caring about once it's their dog as it's their dog and they love it...but some things might matter, non shedding for instance, some of them shed like labs, constantly and heavily.

I find it all a little incestuous. Imagine if we did similar with humans (hmmmm actually I think Hitler may have had a bash at that).
It's that someone somewhere decided that 10 inches was the perfect height for a certain breed of dog. Or that one isn't quite perfect because it's ear flops over instead of sticking straight up.

I can understand that different breeds and make-ups are better or bred for certain things (working dogs) and that certain breeds make better pets (generally) because of temperaments but to breed purely based on looks is horrible.

We've got a lavradoodledoodle. Mum labradoodle- dad poodle. She does just look like a poodle really tho. ??

Littlefrenchonion, so you know perfectly well what clients mean when they say 'labradoodle,' yet you think it's appropriate and professional to make a passive aggressive dig by saying "Do you mean crossbreed?" in an attempt at one-upmanship?

Insurance companies list these dogs by such names, so why wouldn't you?

The three greatest cons of recent years. Children's swimming lessons. Bottled water. Designer dogs. You really have to admire the skills of the marketing people.

And does anyone ever wonder what happens to the ones that don't come out with the right mix- you can't guarantee that any given labradoodle pup will have a non shedding coat, for example. And the whole designer breeds craze positively encourages puppy farming. It's outrageous.

Littlefrenchonion, so you know perfectly well what clients mean when they say 'labradoodle,' yet you think it's appropriate and professional to make a passive aggressive dig by saying "Do you mean crossbreed?" in an attempt at one-upmanship?

Insurance companies list these dogs by such names, so why wouldn't you?

My dog is a: Labridgoodle (lab.crosses with a Hungarian ridgeback/poodle cross)

She looks like a small lab, but has a ridge down her back and has curly hair when wet. She has all the lab temperament but the fierce guarding of a poodle (parents had a standard poodle, best guard dog ever)

Bertrand- nothing happens to those dogs, people buy them that's all. Now, care to tell me what happens to Rhodesian Ridgebacks that are born without a ridge (which by the way is a form of spina bifida and in no way a healthy trait), or bulldogs born with such warped faces that they can't breathe properly, or basset hounds with such bad entropion that they need surgery as puppies to fix it??

Please someone tell me, how on earth can a labradoodle be described as a designer dog, when a pedigree is not? It literally makes no sense whatsoever.

Oh and I have worked (until recently) in rescue centres. I couldn't "buy" a dog when I see the heartbreaking cases, wallowing away through no fault of their own.

I despise feckless idiots.

(like a friend who spent £1500 on 2 designer pups that are caged for 8 hours a day while the owner is at work)

Interesting post, my breed of dog is a 'pedigree' but historically the dog was 'made' from the breeding of numerous different dogs to make a dog of specific look and temprament. This is the case with a lot of 'pedigree' dogs, so infact many pedigree breeds were the labradoodles of their time.

If I encountered someone as childish and petty as littlefrench I'd walk right back out of there and find someone else. How ridiculous?

If you say 'lab poodle cross', people automatically say 'ah, a labradoodle'.

YADNBU. The fad for 'designer breeds' irks me when there are plenty of perfectly nice mongrels in shelters. I don't get why people would rather pay £100s for a 'designer' mutt than rescue one. It's so pretentious. As a dogwalker, the most difficult part of my job is keeping a straight face when someone says they have a "chichon" a "cavapoo" or a "golden doodle" and yes, those are all real examples I have heard.

I also used to work in a veterinary hospital, and I saw an awful lot of pedigrees with problems too, it's not just exclusive to crossbreeds. Like the post mortem I helped with on a four month old bulldog puppy, it was concluded that he died because his airways were too small and he couldn't breathe properly. 'But he has papers!'

The only argument that makes any sense here is that it is crazy to pay so much money for dogs when there are so many in rescue centres. This makes sense.

What I don't get though, is why am I more guilty here than an owner of a Labrador or a pug? They will also have paid hundreds of pounds for theirs, they didn't go to a rescue centre either.

why is it labradoodle, but cockapoo and cavapoo not cockoodle and cavoodle? And why aren't goldendoodles just goldoodles?

Why shouldn't it be?

It's just a name to describe the crossbreed.

Why is it working cocker spaniel and not a wocker spaniel?
Why is it a show cocker spaniel and not a shocker spaniel?
Why is it a toy poodle and not a medium poodle?

Unwanted dogs end up being sold online or in rescues...whether they're pedigrees or crosses.

Rhodesian ridgebacks do not have a form of spina bifida - that's a false claim made by a documentary which has since been withdrawn.

The puppy seller on Watchdog was horrendous :(

I know my Shocker came from a loving family home as I saw him there with his mother, siblings and aunts.

I actually don't think its crazy to buy a dog from a breeder instead of rescue. I have a very large dog and 4 kids under 10. I wanted a dog that has a good temprament, a lot of which is down to breeding. I also wanted a dog from a puppy to get used to my cats and chickens etc. I would never get a dog from rescue with young kids