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Is this inappropriate for a teacher?

131 replies

Dollymixtureyumyum · 25/09/2015 22:30

Sorry for two posts in one day especially as my first day posting but just a quickie
My friend is a teacher and has just started in a school. She has posted a picture of some lines set as a punishment for one her pupils (no name just the lines) which say
"I won't talk when dollymixtureyumyums friend is talking" over 100 times with the status update above it saying "no she won't ha ha
Would I be right in telling said friend to tread carefully

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 26/09/2015 10:03

Not only should they get the sack. They should be named and shamed in the press

Junosmum · 26/09/2015 10:07

Lyndanotlinda, ofsted would disagree there, he was recently rated as outstanding!

LyndaNotLinda · 26/09/2015 10:11

Let's hope they never find out about his inappropriate use of social media then eh?

Junosmum · 26/09/2015 10:14

I'd also point out that my husband is friends with the head and deputy head who have no issue with it, and both have 'liked' commented on posts (some school related some not) So clearly they don't think it's an issue either. I can't see how, if neither school or child/ children are identifiable it's any different from "overheard this on the bus" or " kids did awesome in the school play today", "unidentified work colleague said thisx" or is it because the OP was about a negative thing?

MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 26/09/2015 10:17

I'm a teacher and don't use any social media. Even if I did, I would NEVER post anything about school on there. We have a policy which we've all signed and the head has warned us about it. We would be in serious trouble, potentially sacked. It's not acceptable at all.

Totally unprofessional and potentially humiliating for the child if a 'friend' of a 'friend' of a 'friend' recognises the writing or incident.

Your friend needs to grow up fast or will lose her job.

And lines are not a 21st century ''punishment'. No school I know uses them!!!

MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 26/09/2015 10:27

Junosmum

If your husband, the deputy and the head are all posting and 'liking' on Facebook about the things you say they are then they are in the wrong. Most schools have social media policies that prohibits this behaviour. There is a very good reason for this! We work with children and have to be beyond reproach. Even if comments are predominately positive, they are inappropriate. You think a child can't be identified but Facebook has a nasty way of outing people.

And hahahahahahahahahaha using Ofsted as proof of your husband being an outstanding teacher! You do know they're not worth the paper they're written on don't you?! I've been graded as outstanding by Ofsted but I'm rather ashamed to admit it coz they don't know much about anything and I think it actually counts against me!!

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 26/09/2015 11:44

Well, re Magical's post, about Ofsted. We',ve heard that from the horse's mouth
Very easy for these teachers to be graded "outstanding", when they know ofsted are on their way and they " teachers " are armed with their grease paint, would be very curious to see what they'd be graded if ofsted just turned up unannounced.

PrinceHansOfTheTescoAisles · 26/09/2015 11:55

Lots of teachers I know use maiden names in fbook or just a second initial (e.g. Katie F) which I think is within Fbook rules and is just an extra level of protection to stop students finding them.
But they don't post about work on fbook and neither do I, unless it's something so very neutral that no one could find fault with it (e.g. "woohoo....doughnuts in the office today". True story)

LilacSpunkMonkey · 26/09/2015 11:59

There are some serious porkies being told on this thread.

I work in a school. Social media is covered again and again in Safeguarding training. You are simply not allowed to discuss your work on Facebook, full stop. Anyone who posts examples of work, good or bad, with or without names, is in serious breach of safeguarding and needs sacking. Especially those who post stuff to be laughed at.

I work with a child with ASD and a serious brain injury. Every little thing he produces is amazing. I share with his Mum. I have not even mentioned him on Facebook. Why would I?

pieceofpurplesky · 26/09/2015 12:04

Juno I think your dh's school sounds like an antiquated and uncaring school regardless of OFSTED. Not one person on here has agreed with you or said 'wow
Juno how amazing' your Dh will be in for a shock if the head and deputy ever leave ....

WorraLiberty · 26/09/2015 12:09

My profile is set so that only my friends can see my posts. But everyone can see photos of me that have been my profile pictures

They should only be able to see the one profile pic in current use.

Go to your profile album and click on each individual photo. You can change the settings to friends only for each one.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 26/09/2015 12:14

Lilac. That's the sad part though. I don't think any porkie pies have been told. I genuinely believe there are teachers out there mocking children's work through Facebook.
Yes you would not do but you're a good dedicated teacher, who any student would be lucky to have. Sadly though not everyone is like you, well as you've read.

laffymeal · 26/09/2015 12:28

The thing I cannot believe is that someone is giving lines as a punishment. Nobody does that nowadays. Odd.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 26/09/2015 12:46

Juno I think by posting anything an individal child has done on your facebook to be discussed in anyway is bringing your school in to disrepute

BlinkAndMiss · 26/09/2015 12:53

Punishments are supposed to be effective and linked to making progress within a subject, no decent teacher would give lines it's a completely useless way of managing behaviour.

As for posting it on Facebook, stupid. Nothing that goes on within a school should be posted on Facebook. Facebook has a minimum age for allowing profiles, a child is not able to make an informed choice about sharing information on Facebook so it should not be down to the adults who are educating them to make the decision for them. If I posted about anything that went on in school I would be disciplined. If I posted a child's work on there I'd be sacked with no questions asked and quite rightly too.

LizzieVereker · 26/09/2015 13:14

Lines? Is she somehow teaching in 1952?

In my experience, the teachers who feel the need to say "Johnny/Janey won't be trying that again because I'm so scary" are the most inept at behaviour management. The need to post about it on Facebook is rather pitiful.

5madthings · 26/09/2015 13:19

Wow, totally inappropriate.

My husband works in a school, not as a teacher but in a child protection role. He doesn't use social media anyway but thete is no bloody way he would talk about anything related to his job on social media, it's all coveted in his contract and is not Ok.

I have many frirnds who are teachers, theu are super careful with settings etc on fb and never talk about anything work related.

sproketmx · 26/09/2015 13:38

My kids get lines as punnys. World mostly for them coz all mine want to do soon as they get in is get right back out to play with their wee pals. Getting 100 lines keeps them in longer so less likely to do it again.

ChilliAndMint · 26/09/2015 21:05

I reiterate ..this thread is a hoax.

Frecklesandspecs · 26/09/2015 21:59

Now all the mums on this thread will be asking their dcs if they have a 'Juno' in their class. Wink

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 26/09/2015 22:16
Grin
Dollymixtureyumyum · 26/09/2015 22:25

An update sorry its late in the day but i gave been working- how can i put this- The shit is about the hit the fan
My other friend I mentioned who is also a teacher has reported the Facebook friend to the school, well sent an email anyway to the head as it is weekend. She said her professional integrity made her do it.
She has also messaged Facebook friend and told her she is doing it, nothing has been said by Facebook friend but post has now been taken down.
Facebook friend has removed reporting friend on Facebook.
Hmm
I think I am just going to duck out the way

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Dollymixtureyumyum · 26/09/2015 22:29

Chilliandmint-This thread is not a bloody hoax, that why i have avoided posting on here for so long. My god we even have a poster admitting her husband and colleagues do this so it is certainly not unheard of
instead if troll hunting i suggest you just report it and let the admins decide or if this thread if annoying you in some way don't keep reading it

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Frecklesandspecs · 26/09/2015 22:33

Oh wow Dolly, well that's kind of progress! Even if it makes her think twice about doing it again!
I think you are maybe going to have one friend less in RL but a few more on mumsnet Grin

Dollymixtureyumyum · 26/09/2015 22:46

I know when the reporting friend first told me she had reported Facebook friend (bad nicknames I know but if I just kept saying friend everyone would get confused)
I thought she would ask me to keep quiet as it was anonymous, but no she has told Facebook friend she has done it.

A big part of me really doesn't blame her, she was bullied in school by one of her teachers so I think she comes down very hard on anything like this.
Do you think it will result in sack?
I should have mentioned before facebookfriend is on her NQT (probation) year after qualifying

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