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Is this inappropriate for a teacher?

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Dollymixtureyumyum · 25/09/2015 22:30

Sorry for two posts in one day especially as my first day posting but just a quickie
My friend is a teacher and has just started in a school. She has posted a picture of some lines set as a punishment for one her pupils (no name just the lines) which say
"I won't talk when dollymixtureyumyums friend is talking" over 100 times with the status update above it saying "no she won't ha ha
Would I be right in telling said friend to tread carefully

OP posts:

hollieberrie · 25/09/2015 23:19

Yes Worra, same at my workplace. I can see how people might think its harmless enough but nowadays with OFSTED and everything, school leaders have to be very hot on this kind of thing. If I were to do something like this, things would kick off for sure! And all my colleagues would be . Its pretty standard that everyone employed in schools knows not to do this kind of thing.
Maybe different in the private sector?

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 25/09/2015 23:21

Good teacher you say Juno, a good teacher would NOT humiliate a child like this! If you mean good in the fact he gets results posiably! You can say the child doesn't know but it's done to delibately show them up or make fun of them! For instance would be ok for one of us to find something you've said and start a thread going look what this silly person has said lets all laugh at her?! Would you not find that humilating and upsetting?!

I'm appalled you think this ok! At least the OP had the sense to question it! Yes I'm not sure it needed to be asked and I think the op knew it wasn't ok! I'm honestly more shocked by your response than the original op!

As for them not getting in to trouble there's beeen documented cases over teachers getting sacked for less because of nearly saying they had a bad day at work!

WorraLiberty · 25/09/2015 23:25

It's been about 18 months since I read the school's E-Policy but I know it covered this sort of thing.

And it's a fairly bog standard LA policy too.

No matter how private a teachers FB settings are, someone will always know someone else, and word will spread about what's been posted.

If it was my child's work or lines that was being posted for discussion, I would be angry to say the least.

And I would have zero trust in that teacher from that moment on.

ChilliAndMint · 25/09/2015 23:27

This is a wind up right?

Fell for that one...a lot of them about today.

rainpouringrainbows · 25/09/2015 23:29

Junosmum

we must have the same friends, I have seen plenty of funny example posted (again, no name at all). I really cannot see what the problem is? Kids write funny things, I have been a student, I am a mum, still cannot see what the big deal is, no one is being shamed!

We are of course careful, and have nicknames for facebook or any social media account, so status are restricted to real friends, and no parents can find them. Same parents who believe that their little darlings are too good to do lines...

PurpleDaisies · 25/09/2015 23:30

Totally inappropriate. Where on earth is she working that she thinks posting that sort of thing is ok? Every school I've been in has drummed into all the staff how important it is to be professional on Facebook and not put anything derogatory about the kids. I've never seen any of my teacher friends do this. Occasional things about how proud they are of their classes in general doing well in exams but that's about it.

WorraLiberty · 25/09/2015 23:37

You actually go to the trouble of making nicknames on social media accounts, just so you can post about your jobs and job related things?

Blimey and I thought people who post photos of their dinners lack something about them.

Whatever happened to knocking off of work and getting on with your private life?

I can't imagine how some people coped before social media platforms were invented.

MrsBungle · 25/09/2015 23:40

She's an idiot. She could end up in big trouble.

ChilliAndMint · 25/09/2015 23:40

Worra, I wish there was a " like" button.

rainpouringrainbows · 25/09/2015 23:42

WorraLiberty

Is that your real name then?

LyndaNotLinda · 25/09/2015 23:43

I know plenty of people who use pseudonyms on FB accounts. A lot of my friends who are teachers do. But not so they can titter at the children they teach but so that they can't be googled easily.

It's inappropriate and completely crap, even if the kid who was given the lines or their family is never going to find it.

And do teachers really still do lines? They were woefully old-fashioned when I was at school in the 1970s. I can only think that teachers that believe they're appropriate are a bit piss poor

pieceofpurplesky · 25/09/2015 23:44

I can't believe any teacher is stupid enough to post about pupils and their work on social media.
I also can't believe that in 2015 anyone linked to education knows so little that they would set lines.

Frecklesandspecs · 25/09/2015 23:51

I'm usually fairly laid back about this kind of thing but thinking about it.... would I want my daughter's written work or art work posted on a teacher's (who I don't really know) Facebook for all her friends and possibly friends of friends to see and take the piss out of?
Probably not!

I've taught children (not in this country) and I have loads of pieces of writing, cards and letters which they gave me when I left with some extremely funny misspellings and misunderstandings.
However, this writing is the child's property, just like all the photos I have.

Also, the lines thing, as punishment is (as someone said earlier) like a power trip. Bragging about it on FB even more so!

WorraLiberty · 25/09/2015 23:52

WorraLiberty

Is that your real name then?

rainpouringrainbows is this Facebook? You know, where people actually use their real names and add real life family and friends to their accounts?

No, this is Mumsnet where everyone uses a nickname.

Making a Facebook account with a false name (apart from being against FB rules), just so you can post about your job to all who will listen is a bit...well, sad really imo.

Frecklesandspecs · 25/09/2015 23:57

Rainpouring, My darlings aren't too good to do lines. My kids get punished if they misbehave.

But lines are a complete waste of time and what exactly do they teach the child? (if you do wrong, you will be bored to death for half an hour?!)
Gee, that's a real good punishment !

ChilliAndMint · 26/09/2015 00:02

I'm 49 and the last time I was given lines was when I was about 8.

Went to Middle School at 9; lines were a thing of the past then.

BitOfFun · 26/09/2015 00:05

To disagree slightly, Worra (as we are wont to do- phew ), I know plenty of people who use an alias on social media like Facebook, with the understanding of their family and close friends, simply because it is just a sensible thing to do when it comes to preventing stalking or employers googling etc. In the case of teachers, it makes good sense to avoid being looked up by students or parents.

Not that I think it was necessarily a great idea for the OP's friend to post about a possibly-identifiable current pupil.

Feckingfeckfeck · 26/09/2015 00:11

Hate to sound like "that person" but I would be reporting that person to the school. Ive just thought about how it would make my feel if that was my daughter being mocked by a load of strangers on the Internet and I felt devastated.

Frecklesandspecs · 26/09/2015 00:14

Exactly Feck. Might not feel like 'shame' to adults but to a 7 year old it would.

Smartiepants79 · 26/09/2015 00:15

Commenting on social media about your job is extremely unprofessional. All schools would be very unhappy about this. They will have a policy about social media, 99% or schools policies would not allow this. This teacher is a fool.

BitOfFun · 26/09/2015 00:18

IT depends if her/his name was used, I guess, Feck, or if it was otherwise obvious by being a current event people on the Friend list would recognise, in which case it's out of order.

Teachers, like anyone else, should be able to humorously relate their battle stories, but it's obviously unethical if it's in practically real time to an uncontrolled audience.

WorraLiberty · 26/09/2015 00:21

I know what you're saying BOF

But if you tighten your security settings and only add people you know (which is standard practise - or should be) then there's no need for the fake name.

Apart from anything else, if someone decides to report you to FB for using a fake name, you'll lose what could be years of photos/posts etc.

My brother lost his gaming account because FB wanted him to upload his driving licence, to prove his name was 'Willie Make-It"

NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 26/09/2015 00:27

What? No one is being shamed how is being gossiped and laughed at behind your back not being shamed I'd find that pretty humiliating wether I was 7 or 77!

Those who think there's nothing wrong with it even the unions advice against unprofessional behaviour on social media www.nasuwt.org.uk/InformationandAdvice/Professionalissues/SocialNetworking/NASUWT_007513

'Parents and students may access your profile and could, if they find the information and/or images it contains offensive, complain to your employer.'

This image could be deemed offensive!

maxybrown · 26/09/2015 00:34

I have managed to find teachers who don't use their real name. (not that I'm a stalker) You can find people through other people - someone is nearly always a friend of a friend somewhere.

I am also married to a teacher - he has no interest in social media anyway but feels no need to share his day with people online. Nor do any of my teacher friends, they are professional and value their jobs.

These teachers that post these things - a friend of theirs shares something they post, then it's shared by someone else and so on. So that thing that was once on their private wall is all over the show.

There is someone I know from the online community who is a teacher and her wall is VERY unprofessional - to the point of being friends with current students and their parents, makes me cringe.

catrin · 26/09/2015 00:57

In the position I am in, I keep an eye on staff's social media. Most people are not nearly as private as they should be and I haven't invited people to interview on that basis. If I saw that I would not be impressed. If she were in my staff, we'd be having 'a chat'.

Having said that, the bragging element makes me depressed to be in the profession at all.

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