To think these parking spaces will cause a lot of trouble

[Notenoughhoursever]

Went shopping today and parked in a disabled bay. Noticed that all the bay's either side of us were both p+c and disabled bays (each one had the pictures in for both!)

AIBU to think this is going to cause problems? Obviously blue badge holders should have priority but my marking spaces as both people are surely going to argue over them as it's making them look equal when imo they are not ?

*but BY marking

That's ridiculous!

First come first serve if double marked surely?

Disability always has priority afaiac but it will cause trouble I agree.

I couldn't believe it! Surely it would have been better to mark them separately? By putting the wheelchair symbol and p+c symbol in the same space it's going to cause a problem?

It shouldn't be first come first served though should it ? P+c spaces are handy yes but not essential and they could be placed elsewhere as it's the space around needed not the actual proximity to services ?

No, spanish it is not first come, first served. It is a legal requirement to provide disabled parking bays and it is not legal to use them without a blue badge. A parent and child space is a courtesy.

I think more spaces and more flexibility is the way to go. In our local grocery store there is (I kid you not) parking for; people with disabilities; parent and child; seniors; electric cars; small cars. FFS. Just have a couple of designated spaces for people with disabilities, then a few more 'priority' parking.

No of course, I just can't imagine many people stopping to row with someone and insist they move if they were already parked there. Could be wrong!
Where there lots of spaces? You'd hope that who ever made this decision would have at least done enough research to ensure that.

Agree disabled bays should be priority but how can it actually work anything other than first come first served? If a parent with child parks up and goes into the shop then they won't know to come out and move car if a blue badge holder arrives. Agree with you ridiculous markings.

I think tomorrow I will try and find out who is actually in charge of this car park (La? Private company?) and put something in writing as I don't think it's right I think the spaces should be separated

Dawn if they're marked up as both its going to have to be first come first served I'm afraid.
If it turns out the spaces aren't quite legal I imagine they'll be amended soon.

Good idea Note

Unless there is a percentage of spaces that are solely for the use by disabled people, that's against the law surely?

It's an absolutely ridiculous idea and I would go as far as saying it disadvantages blue badge holders.

But there is a space for people with disabilities. Just also, more spaces for those who might need a bit of space/closer.

Their choices are; just spaces for disabled people and lose the marketing advantage.
Do what they did and have MN moaning
Do a space for disabled people, then p and c, which obviously could be used by a disabled person but have the idiots try to argue with a blue badge holder who hasn't go t a child.

Can't win.

The ikea near hear does that too but they also have disabled only spaces too.

They have spaces like this in the Bullring in Birmingham. There are also additional disabled spaces. It does seem to stop just anyone parking in them. I've rarely been in the main car park when a disabled space hasn't been available. Probably at Christmas but it's chaos then for everyone.

*here ffs

This sounds like a recipe for disaster!

As long as they have a good amount of dedicated disabled spaces then that's fine and actually marking p and c spaces as more "multi purpose" could be a good thing.

Having stand alone disabled bays is a must though.

it just seems to give the message that having a disability is on a par with pushing a buggy about, which is the problem I have with it.

I agree with sirzy as long as there are plenty of clearly marked disabled bays (enough relative to the amount of traffic that uses the car park) then the double marked ones could be good. It can really only be first come first serve with those ones though. Unless they're going to call out your reg number while you're shopping to move your car if you've not got a blue badge on it and someone with a blue badge wants it....and that would cause chaos and an outrage.

Disabled drivers need to have their own clearly marked spaces though. OP only you know what the car park looks like though and if you're concerned then definitely write to the owners to complain.

Our local supermarket did this years ago. Then they changed them all back to just disabled because they were always taken by parents and disabled people could never park. I suspect they may have been threatened about being sued.

Surely this is also going to cause issues with people using them that are neither disabled or have a young child, after all there are many people that seem to mislay their child that use the P&C spaces already.

The only way I can see this working is if tthere are still just as many disabled-only spaces, and the difference is that all the parent-and-child spaces are marked as dual purpose.

Really this is just how it should work in any case.

Hopefully this would avoid the near-unbelievable stories I've heard of over-entitled parents having a go at disabled people for parking in P&C spaces!

That sounds confusing. Did they have many bays that were marked as exclusively disabled?

I suppose that if there was also the standard proportion of bays marked as exclusively disabled, then the intention might be for these multi-function bays to provide extra parking for disabled drivers (I know blue badge holders are allowed to park in P+C bays anyway, but it might stop ignorant parents arguing about it).

But if these multi-function bays are replacing the disabled bays, it sounds like a terrible idea. Of course the disabled drivers should have priority over the parent and child, but in practice, it's going to be first come first served. A parent parked in a P+C space will have no way of knowing whether a blue badge holder will need a space while they're away from the car. If the parent needs the wide space, they'll probably just park and hope for the best, because the P+C markings are giving them permission to park there.