To think that Taylor Swift is a good role model for girls.

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Her new music video has no sex references, butts or twerking. She has a class that Nicki Garbage, Miley Virus and Kim Kartrashian lack.

TS has retained control of her life, her look, her music and her money.

That is surely worth a nod? Especially in an industry that sucks girls up, manipulates them and spits them back out.

Dd used to really like her early more country influenced stuff.

I agree with Squooshed she's painful.

She tries way too hard to cultivate her dorky, awkward, cute, anti-mean girl image. It's tiresome.

Shet totally is! I ser absolutely nothing sincere about the girl. Just a girl who made music by singing about exes, then graduated to slightly veiled comments about others in interviews then moved to actively calling people out on Twitter and passive aggressive 'favourite'. Add in her "glam squadd" aka the other pretty and popular famous girls and hey presto! Mean Girl.

She honestly leaves me cold. Something so fake about her.

Some ridiculous typos from me there, I do apologise.

Yanbu. TS has done very well to keep focused despite starting in the industry at 14. Most teens go off the rails. She plays the game well and keeps her image just clean enough.

I'm old enough to be her mum and she's on my running play list.

For all she goes on about being a feminist she doesn't seem very sisterly to me. Isn't she always bitching about ex boyfriend's new girlfriends in her songs?

I just don't buy the wholesome golly, gosh, wow shtick she peddles.

Shake It Off I find really quite difficult to get on board with.

So, I'm going to ignore all of the haters and carry on doing my own thing regardless of what people think of me. It just so happens that a lot of my thing involves me conforming to a very narrow stereotypical model of what women should look like and be interested in. It also helps that whilst I do have haters in my ear, I also have a legion of fans telling me that everything I do is amazing.

I never said it was Private. I said she started like that then moved on to slighting people in interviews and then calling people out on Twitter. Little Madam is getting too big for her boots. And again, she has made Calvin Harris so unlikeable.

PaulAnka Calling her fans and close group of other very pretty, slim and fashionable celebrity friends a 'squad' is very mean girls

And why does she always play the victim in her songs?

Woman up Taylor.

Vacantly Slightly confused, are you calling me out for referring to them as that? Because that is what they are consistently called in the media. I assumed because that's what they call themselves.I'd be surprised if she didn't like it yet never told anyone.

PrivatePike I take it you're a big Swift fan?

There was also that video where the white dancers were pretty ballerinas and the black dancers were faceless booty shakers. Seemed a bit crass to me.

Wasn't Calvin Harris already annoying?

My 8 year old likes her. Could be worse and could be a hell of a lot better. I have never bought into role models coming packaged as a celebrity. However, regardless of how they dress, how many men they have shagged, how much they drink at midday on a Wednesday, it still requires a certain amount of drive and resilience to get and stay where they are.

I only ever really admired my mum, even as a young child. Triumph over adversity is what I look for in a role model and hope my children go the same way.

Private... Didn't you see my other posts? Where I explained why I don't like her and how she has turned into a 'mean girl'? Pretty self explanatory as to why I think she's a madam.

I never get the 'I think XXXX is a great role model'.

I've never had a role model. The art is all important to me, couldn't give a fiddler's what they get up to behind closed doors.

Paula No, sorry I don't think I was clear. I was agreeing with you. I think she is a mean girl - very sneery- and I think the use of term 'squad' for fans and other goregous celebrity women totally reinforces that. Sorry!

Haha! Get you now! Glad someone agrees

Wasn't Calvin Harris already annoying?

He's never been on my radar so can't comment on that but my word that fella has had a makeover and a half!