To think peoples attitude to food is bizarre

[lastqueenofscotland]

It just seems to be on one extreme or the other!
All this "clean eating" which I think limits huge amounts of food groups. No carb/no sugar/no fat fads. Using things that should supplement a healthy diet (shakes/smoothies etc) as meals. Phobias of wheat, people offering dietary advice with no qualifications to do so other than they have found a few of their OWN issues were sorted out by a change. Totally loss if understanding of what healthy is... Colleague today saying she was having a healthy lunch (handful if carrot sticks!). All this guilt around eating various things that are FINE.
It is doing my head in! (Can you tell everyone in my office is dieting?!)

It's not "healthy eating shaming", it's a concern for people's wellbeing when it becomes clear they (as CherryBlossom says) have either lost sight of what food is and is for, or who don't/won't think critically about sensible balanced eating. And usually this concern isn't expressed/volunteered unless prompted by the dieter.

Occasional "treats" are part of a healthy diet. It's the frequency that becomes relevant. (I refer you to the weekly takeaway thread mentioned above).

In my experience (which may differ from other people's) no one's bothered about what another person eats until they start to evangelise about their current Diet. (And I've explained my perceptions on this previously).

jello how on earth is clean eating 'food phobic'? It's the opposite!!! It means to eat lots of FOOD.... Not stuff out of packets/convenience/fast food/processed.... Which mostly doesn't pass as 'food'

Biggest fad diet of heard of is slimming world... It says eat as much as you like of certain foods to keep you full

And copious amounts of muller lights!

the one I really dislike is carbs=bad bad things

any dietitian, sports nutritionist or sports therapist/personal trainer will tell you how important carbs are - good whole wheat carbs - they help your body burn fat

Carbs are not the enemy - silly faddy diets, viewing food as bad and cutting out food groups is silly

Clean eating just cuts out processed and fast foods. Why is that food phobic?

What is properly food phobic is children/adults avoiding proper homemade, healthy, wholesome meals and vegetables.

I'm into dangerous territory now, I'm really hungry!

Firstly: mmm, carbs

Secondly: GarminGirl I agree with you about SW. Mainly because I'm sceptical of paying money to companies who have an interest in you remaining fat!

any dietitian, sports nutritionist or sports therapist/personal trainer will tell you how important carbs are - good whole wheat carbs - they help your body burn fat

No they won't. Many will say to limit grains/gluten and get carbs from sweet potatoes, quinoa, buckwheat etc.

Whole grains is very much old school outdated. Nestle use it to sell their cookie crisp serial crap as healthy.

At least you actually eat food on SW GarminGirl I have FB freinds on juice plus dropping lbs and lbs by having shakes for a few days.

I thought clean eating was just eating non processed food, the JP brigade have stolen the term I think because you 'shake' and then eat clean.

This crazy shit has been going on for decades, now though its all over FB and people have the 'backing' of their chosen group behind them.

What is phobic is the use of the emotive word 'clean' - it's completely meaningless, but it suggests that there is something dirty, disgusting, maybe even morally wrong about foods that don't fall under the 'clean' label. The words 'trash' and 'garbage' also seem to be thrown about to describe non-health foods (at least in the 'clean eating' cookbook I've seen). Eating has nothing to do with cleanliness, and the occasional chocolate bar is not the same as eating 'garbage'. I think that eating a balanced diet is important and to be encouraged, but using this kind of emotional language strikes me as pathological.

What is phobic is the use of the emotive word 'clean' - it's completely meaningless, but it suggests that there is something dirty, disgusting, maybe even morally wrong about foods that don't fall under the 'clean' label.

Non-clean = processed. Do you really think that anyone needs to rush to the defence of processed food?

In our department we would be grateful for out 5:2 faster to eat owt, clean, dirty or frankly minging!

But apparently, we just all need to see the light and understand the wonderful health benefits.

Carbs are great and the first choice for energy. Glucose isn't the devil either.
Problem comes when people eat in excess of their energy requirements, compounded by eating processed mixtures of carbs and fat which generally encourage over consumption.

At least you actually eat food on SW GarminGirl I have FB freinds on juice plus dropping lbs and lbs by having shakes for a few days.

You can actually reverse some pretty serious illnesses by going on a juiced diet (meant as separate from juice, i.e. you actually juice fruits and vegetables).

I know Rabbit. I have been told of the virtues of juicing.

My FB freinds are not reversing serious illnesses though, the are doing it to lose weight, they have also become obsessed with 'healthy living' and clean eating. They confess their food sins thier latest status and then declare that they are 'back to it'.

Interesting what someone way up thread said about 5:2 and her colleagues bad behaviour on fast day

Carbs, good carbs, need to be used tho. I ran London marathon this year and put on weight. Overestimating the amount of carbs I needed I think. I had muesli before a long run. A banana and a few jelly beans mid run. Or the nakd cubes. A protein shake afterwards ( couldn't face eating straightaway) then a normal dinner

During marathon training I cut out all alcohol too. Don't know where I went wrong tbh

I am a juicing sceptic, but my husband is not (marital discord). Unfortunately there's an increasing body of evidence that you can reverse all manner of serious cardiovascular/endocrine/auto-immune disorders by juicing for 10/21/31/60 days.

I don't really see the issue with going on a juice diet to lose weight. Do you? It is extremely good for you.

There's actually a lot of overlap with SW and clean eating. muller lights aren't compulsory and the idea is to eat mostly fresh unprocessed low fat food and minimal junk.

YABU

During busy work weeks I regularly have carrot sticks for lunch so that I can have a nice big family dinner while being sedentary during the day.

I do think there is a lot of disordered eating out there regarding fad diets
I lost weight while pregnant because for the first time since I was a teenager I allowed myself to eat what I wanted but told myself the baby was eating what I was. Result, I ate nourishing food with no hang ups.
I find it really hard after twenty years of dieting not to see foods like avocado and bananas as bad. Would love to reset my thinking.

Don't get me started on juice dieters. 'You can lose weight quickly like me'. Then uploads pictures of what they ate/drank after falling off the wagon. Then you see them in the street in real life and they are still the same size they always were. Complete scam.

Micro that's my gripe. My office always seem to be on crash diets the give up after four days with a massive dominos. It's the total lack of Middle ground.

garmin her behaviour is really unpleasant.

We have tried joking about it. But that just went over her head. We've tried offering food. But she gets quite snippy (a bit like some posters on here, calling us thin-shaming, diet sabs etc).

In the end, it's come to formal discipline.

Which is fucking ridiculous, no?

That a highly intelligent grown woman is facing the sack because she's got it into her head that not eating is A Good Idea and can find plenty of support on the internet!

We have them at work to giving out advice when they are usually 3 x the size of the people not in to 'clean living'.

Dukan diet anyone?