To think peoples attitude to food is bizarre

[lastqueenofscotland]

It just seems to be on one extreme or the other!
All this "clean eating" which I think limits huge amounts of food groups. No carb/no sugar/no fat fads. Using things that should supplement a healthy diet (shakes/smoothies etc) as meals. Phobias of wheat, people offering dietary advice with no qualifications to do so other than they have found a few of their OWN issues were sorted out by a change. Totally loss if understanding of what healthy is... Colleague today saying she was having a healthy lunch (handful if carrot sticks!). All this guilt around eating various things that are FINE.
It is doing my head in! (Can you tell everyone in my office is dieting?!)

ps, never done atkins, cambridge, slimfast, paleo............. always calorie counted even though 'experts' tell you repeatedly that you shouldn't.

I can be what I like, I'm not breaking talk guidelines.

Obesity is a mental health issue?? Heard it all now

Magaly that's another layer to this, the difference between healthy and slim. Not everyone needs to be slim to be healthy. The obsession with BMI, particularly within the medical profession and media, has clouded this concept. It's a useful tool but should not be the be-all and end-all of assessing health.

Did anyone watch The Men Who Made Us Fat? There was some interesting ideas about the changes to BMI bands and the relationship with the diet industry.

What do you think it is if it isn't a mental health issue Garmin?

Why are people obese when the sheer maths is so simple and everyone in the developed world understands it?

GarminGirl you do seem to be working hard to have an argument and/or be offended by this thread. Why is that?

(I'm trying to be understanding and kind here, not upset you more).

Greed? Eating too much crap? Not bothering to move much... Same as someone further up thread said

And then there's childhood obesity, which is a MASSIVE concern. Not mental health issues then is it?

Guess I'm here same reason as you are indomitable?

Yabvvvvvu

Cancer, diabetes and dimentia are growing rapidly and will distroy the NHS and a big part in these is diet. The human race is being poison ed.

But these faddy unsustainable diets won't have an impact on that, Laura. Only long-term sustainable balanced diets (with a healthy attitude to food).

Actually, what I've learned from this thread, is that "clean eating" is the closest to a balanced diet. (When followed in a sustainable way)

So what is anorexia nervosa Garmin? Is it a mental illness or is it a case of just eating more to cure it?

Mintyy the diets we've discussed up thread are always filed under Orthorexia in my mind.

"orthorexia
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noun
an obsession with eating foods that one considers healthy.
a medical condition in which the sufferer systematically avoids specific foods that they believe to be harmful.
noun: orthorexia nervosa; plural noun: orthorexia nervosas"

Which (train of thought here) might be the defining difference between #cleaneating and 'normal' balanced diets.

I think if you took out all the people who, while they may not have coeliac, feel physically better on non-processed food, you'd have very few left who are doing it because it's a "fad"

Clean eating isn't a fad. It's been around for years

And so have carrot sticks!

A work colleague has spent this year doing 5:2.

She is evangelical about it, telling us all the marvels of fasting and how great she feels etc...

Except her behaviour is so poor on her starvation fasting days, I've had several students come to me in tears about her and I've had to report her to the Head of Faculty. I simply won't work with her next year if she carries on!

I think people have lost sight of what food is for and what food actually is (what it contains). If you understand that well, there is no need for fads and strict diets. As many have said, its all about balance. But to the OP, YANBU, people have bizarre attitudes and beliefs about food.

Just more healthy eating shaming. People that choose to not ram crisps and chocolate bars down their throat every couple of hours in an office are automatically picked on for having an eating disorder. Just because others take it as an attack on their lifestyle. It happens a lot.

I support avoiding specific foods due to intolerance, allergies, religious or moral leanings. However theres also lots of faddy diets out there - shakes, no fat etc. What's worst in my opinion though is people living off fast food and convenience food. Also people weaning their kids onto crap with little thought for health

Is clean eating when you wash your carrots before eating them?!

*"Eating disorder"

Whoever said that these "health slamming" posts are started by people who are justifying their cramming their widening waste lines with junk food...
I'm a long distance runner with a bmi of about 21, who's got a home made veggie curry on the hob.

My major gripe are these FADS I'm not saying that we should all go and stuff our selves full of pizza and cake. But not succumbing to mad fads, white pasta won't kill you, it's nice. As is kale but a kale smoothie is not a fucking meal.

YANBU. 'Clean eating' is a particularly horrible term - it's food-phobic and normalises eating disorders imo. Everything in moderation indeed.

Just looked up clean eating and it's how I eat 95% of the time. I consider myself to have a healthy balanced approach to food. I'm not hooked on sugar, fast food or convenience food thankfully and have basic cooking skills

I eat regular meals/snacks, eat unprocessed foods, eat complex carbs (wholewheat), drink water, eat protein, go organic where possible. My parents and grandparents ate this way and so do my children. It's the norm for us.

'Ram crisps and chocolate bars down their throat' - sorry but this kind of language is not convincing me you don't have a problem with food! I say this as a former ED sufferer myself.

Only bothers me when people start spouting incorrect crap about healthy eating, and banging on about how it's the only way, when clearly they know sod all about it.
I also hate all the silly fad diets, they do fuck all but turn people into defeated yoyo dieters with fucked up metabolisms. The 5:2 one is the only current popular one I can think of that seems to be beneficial.

With garmin on obesity. Eating disorders and mental health issues can affect anyone of any size. The reason it's so hard is because to become overweight you've learnt to eat for reasons other than hunger. And if you're obese, that's a hell of a lifestyle change to make.
Doesn't help that lots of people are clueless about nutrition, how the human body works and how to exercise. Or this current culture where overweight is considered normal, and the word fat should never be mentioned.