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To be edging towards an anti-Monarchy position purely because of the Cambridges?

355 replies

Buxhoeveden · 17/08/2015 07:29

As a couple they are starting to grate.

Is it too early to focus on them?

OP posts:
pineappleshortbread · 17/08/2015 14:32

The queen pays more in tax than the police and security and her own general costs. She is self sufficient

BoboChic · 17/08/2015 14:35

Kate tried to do without a nanny for George but had to relent. Give her a break. I think it's just vile to be so critical of someone so obviously dedicated to her role. Despise the role if you will but not her valiant efforts to get it right.

Rovinja · 17/08/2015 14:39

This is an interesting read.
blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-qa-does-the-monarchy-pay-for-itself/10711

ajandjjmum · 17/08/2015 14:41

Hay - when has William thrown his toys out of the pram?

I would also love to see the reference for when Kate 'admitted' going to St. Andrews to snare her prince - as referred to much earlier up this thread.

AlbrechtDurer · 17/08/2015 14:48

I see, from Rovinja's link, that the Queen pays less Council Tax for Buckingham Palace than I do for my pokey gaff [shocked].

SirChenjin · 17/08/2015 15:07

Dedicated to her role? Grin

Oh I agree - the dedication to the role of lazy mare is to be admired, and her valiant efforts to get that right has certainly paid off. She's perfected the technique beautifully.

BoboChic · 17/08/2015 15:09

Look like Kate do you, Sir? Grin

jonicomelately · 17/08/2015 15:09

I don't think it's vile to say the Duchess doesn't seem to do an awful lot.

SirChenjin · 17/08/2015 15:13

No - do you?

BoboChic · 17/08/2015 15:18

What do you expect her to do that she isn't doing? She isn't an important member of the royal family, she has fulfilled her no 1 obligation of breeding and now she is rearing (a not inconsiderable task) a future King and his sister and will soon be resuming what is only going to be a PT-compatible with motherhood role as patron of charities and royal performer. She has to look fantastic all the time (hours of personal trainer/grooming/clothes shopping etc) and be on perfect behaviour in public. Plus lots of briefing/homework around royal duties. I very much doubt she reads novels/watches TV/slobs out in PJs.

Should she be instagramming herself scrubbing the floor? Confused

SirChenjin · 17/08/2015 15:22

Yes, absolutely - scrubbing the floor is all that she could possibly be doing.

Annarose2014 · 17/08/2015 15:22

I don't mind William so much cos at least doing search and rescue he's contributing to society. Its not like he's laying around on his arse when he's not in the public eye.

Kate is an individual who I struggle to understand. She was notoriously indignant at the "Waity Katy" tag and her people went to great lengths to assure the media that she wasn't actually long-term unemployed but contributing to her parents business. Hmm

You'd think then that stung by that, she'd have gone "right! I'll show them!" and gotten stuck in immediately, like Diana did. But even before the kids there'd be literally several weeks between engagements. We were told she was "taking her time deciding what charities to honour" and all that. But it was terrible, terrible, terrible PR.

Now she has 2 kids and if she had been a workhorse all this time I'd be totally generous about her reducing her workload a bit. But you can't really reduce it any more than before really, can you?!

So it looks for all the world like someone who was just biding her time before she bacame a Mum and had an excuse to nestle at home as much as possible.

And whilst a lot of people want to be SAHMs, thats not the family she married into. She married into a family where regardless of kids, you do a couple of hundred engagements a year till you keel over.

Tbh, I don't see how she does so much less than Sophie of Essex, who also has two young kids and seems to have an engagement most weeks.

Rovinja · 17/08/2015 15:29

school expects DC to have a nanny and rather looks down on families who use after school care.

What sort of snobby school do your kids go to??

ComposHatComesBack · 17/08/2015 15:32

Tourists love them!

Tourists don't come to see the Royal Family, unless the Windsors have started offering private audiences with tourists and haven't told anyone.

Some tourists will want to see the trappings of Royalty whilst they are here such as the Royal residences all of which would remain and could be kept open for longer periods if royalty didn't occupy them.

BalloonSlayer · 17/08/2015 15:36

I have read that William's choice of University was changed to St Andrews at the very last minute (by UCAS standards) and therefore it was impossible for anyone to have chosen the same place just to be at University with him.

I'd say Kate and her mother would be less than human if they had not chortled prior to her starting at University: "what if I end up marrying Prince William!" I expect every other female student thought the same, either in jest or in horror.

Oh and you should also bear in mind that Kate has had horrible pregnancies.

I was a SAHM when my DCs were small because my DH earned enough and we could afford it. Kate's DH earns many times what my DH does but she should go to work just for the sake of it? Fuck that.

Sansarya · 17/08/2015 15:39

I think the point is more that what she does isn't exactly hard work - a few hours at a time, a few times a month - so why can't she do a few more duties here and there?

SirChenjin · 17/08/2015 15:39

Anna - completely agree.

It's interesting - Mrs Middleton has obviously been a grafter with a strong work ethic and keen business acumen, and I would have thought those values would have been instilled in her daughter. Sadly not.

MitzyLeFrouf · 17/08/2015 15:40

Kate's DH earns many times what my DH does but she should go to work just for the sake of it? Fuck that.

But that's the deal that comes with being a royal. I'm sure the Queen isn't beyond hoiking her royal bosom at family members who aren't putting enough ribbon cutting hours in.

CassieBearRawr · 17/08/2015 15:41

Yy albrecht Grin

SirChenjin · 17/08/2015 15:42

Balloon - as Anna said upthread, you don't get to be a SAHM in the royal family, esp. not at her 'level'. That's not the way it works.

AlbrechtDurer · 17/08/2015 15:46

Apparently, they are off to Mustique in November, so I guess we can expect a flurry of 2 or 3 brief engagements the week before that.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 17/08/2015 15:51

I think the number one argument in favour of a republic is that there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer to the question "how much do they cost the taxpayer?".

WilburIsSomePig · 17/08/2015 15:59

I like them. Sorry.

pineappleshortbread · 17/08/2015 16:05

Even if we did get rid of them they wouldnt suddenly become ordinary people they would still require security and policing along with anyone we replaced them with

keepitsimple0 · 17/08/2015 16:05

disliking the current, future or past monarchs isn't a reason to become a republican. if you are a monarchist, then surely you accept that saint or idiot, you must take what you are given.

if you feel like you should have a say in who the monarch is, you aren't a monarchist.

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