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is sn on the increase?

244 replies

spritefairy · 13/08/2015 12:39

Now this is not to offend anyone with a child with sn but every other post seems to have someone who has a child with sn be it disabled or autistic. This makes me wonder.
Is sn on the increase or is it just diagnosed more than it used to be due to medical advances?

OP posts:
BertieBotts · 13/08/2015 13:36

ADD is not caused by poor parenting.

x2boys · 13/08/2015 13:37

I think asd is better at being diagnosed paticularly higher functioning but i think mumsnet in general distorts stuff for example this thread will be more likely to be answered by parents of children with s/n. my son has a rare chromosome disorder that has likely casused his asd and learning difficulties, its like the gifted and talented children threads they are likely to be answered by people whose kids are on the gifted and talented register giving the impression that most kids are on it which isnt the case at all!

marinacortina · 13/08/2015 13:40

I am staggered. I realised some people would choose to take offence at my observation, but I am genuinely shocked and offended that it was delete. It was a genuine comment at how these euphemisms and abbreviations can be interpreted perceived by older people. Get over yourselves.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:42

Threads like this are really annoying. Whether it's on the increase or not what's the value in a discussion about it?

It just invites some people to say that there are loads of children who don't actually deserve the resources that their parents have to fight so hard for.

Let me assure you that a diagnosis is very difficult to get in writing. Local services will ignore as long as they can unless you're proactive as a parent.

BishopBrennansArse · 13/08/2015 13:43

Oh but Bertie she's worked in the field so KNOWS.
(I've encountered plenty Of that too).

BishopBrennansArse · 13/08/2015 13:45

I'll get over myself when people stop excusing ignorance because They're 'older' or 'it's funny'.

Is age an excuse for racism? Homophobia?

MoDhachaidh · 13/08/2015 13:48

marinacortina How old are you?

Obviously not old enough to realise how offensive your post would be to those of us with children who have additional needs.

marinacortina · 13/08/2015 13:48

WorraLiberty Thank you very much. I am heartened that there are some fair-minded people here.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:49

I'm glad I didn't see it. I've seen his threads like this play out before.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:50

Sorry I don't know where 'his' came from Confused

marinacortina · 13/08/2015 13:51

It's only offensive to people who are too stupid to read what I said properly, and understand the point I was making.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:52

Well if your comment was not offensive marina, it would not have been deleted. And now you're calling people stupid so you're not helping your own cause particularly.

marinacortina · 13/08/2015 13:53

Since my post was conveniently deleted, you are all free to make up some outrage that I never said. Clearly no point in trying to have any kind of intelligent discussion here.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:54

In the interests of the discussion itself, Charlotte Moore, in her book called 'George and Sam' which is about her two sons who have autism says that she believes there are more children who actually have autism these days than there were when she herself was a child.

WorraLiberty · 13/08/2015 13:55

HagOtheNorth has said almost exactly the same thing in the last 2 lines of her post at 13:19:46, but unlike marina's, her post seems to have been taken the way it was intended.

It's silly to berate a poster for a post that you haven't read.

GeorgeYeatsAutomaticWriter · 13/08/2015 13:55

If you have a problem with your post being deleted, take it up with MNHQ marinacortina.

I saw your post, remember exactly what it said, and thought it was unnecessary and rather nasty.

marinacortina · 13/08/2015 13:56

My post explained why I find SN an unfortunate abbreviation, because it had another meaning in the past. That is all. Many older people will misunderstand this term.

bodenbiscuit · 13/08/2015 13:57

MNHQ don't delete posts unless they feel it's absolutely necessary. It's never been trigger happy in terms of deletion policy.

BertieBotts · 13/08/2015 13:58

Was the post basically "Older people don't know what SN are..." (Hello, massive generalisation!) "...because they didn't exist in their day..." (ie, were undiagnosed or hidden) "...so it's better to call children so that the old people will understand."

I didn't see it but that's the impression I'm getting? And if so, no. Older people can listen and understand that labels change. If they choose not to then they are ignorant, it's nothing to do with them being old.

I mean it's like saying that the word n is not offensive when an old person says it because it was acceptable in 1924. Confused

TheHouseOnBellSt · 13/08/2015 13:58

Marina out of interest, what was the other meaning?

BishopBrennansArse · 13/08/2015 13:58

So the terminology used is the parents fault? Hmm

BertieBotts · 13/08/2015 13:59

Sorry, x-posted.

In fact the official term isn't special needs any more anyway, it is additional needs.

WorraLiberty · 13/08/2015 13:59

No Bertie it wasn't.

WorraLiberty · 13/08/2015 14:00

X posted here too

Jasonandyawegunorts · 13/08/2015 14:00

be it disabled or autistic

Hmm

You realise Autism is a neurological disability right?