To miss the days when people were just 'thirsty'?!

[Babycham1979]

What's all this shit with, 'hydrating'? It's called drinking fucking water!

Whenever I hear someone claiming to be 'dehydrated', I want to reach for my revolver. No, dear, you're not dehydrated, you're just thirsty. It won't hurt you to wait twenty minutes for a drink.

Advanced capitalism, combined with nanny-statism seems to have fostered a nation of adult-babies who can't got five minutes without a snack, needing a piss, or a plastic bottle to suck on. It truly does my head in.

I can't remember the last time I sat through a film or a play without multiple audience members nipping out at least once during the show. Yes, I do appreciate that SOME people suffer incontinence, or might have needed a shot of insulin but, come on, not on this scale!

Lagoonblue there was certainly snacking in the 60's. Our school sold packets of crisps at breaktime. People also had 'elevenses' and 'supper'. It wasn't constant though or to the same extent, that's true.
We always had plenty of water to drink as well but it was just tap water or occassional squash.

Snacking used to be considered a bad thing. Now it is compulsory and features in prescribed diets. In case we get hungry (sign of starvation).

I can also remember other kids having plenty of sweets and chocolates as well (we didn't because we were poor).

Queeltie

don't tell me what my bladder needs. ffs! leave my bladder well alone.
why on earth do you think it's ok for your to be that arrogant as to tell others what they should or shouldn't do, based on your personal circumstances ?! how dare you claim to know anything beyond what I posted?

especially as seems to me you didn't even bother to read and accept what I posted.
I care not to repeat or justify myself

Snacking has fuelled obesity. People lose touch with what being hungry actually feels like. Feeling hunger, and feeling full, is the natural way your body regulates your food intake.

And yes drinking water every hour is about a psychological habit or need.

You can actually make yourself ill from drinking too much water. It dilutes important electrolytes.

ZingDrama - Yes I did read it. A full bladder makes stress incontinence more difficult. I am simply repeating what the continence nurse told me in terms of overcoming stress incontinence in the long term, which is different from short term coping methods.

If you suffer from this, ask about going to an incontinence clinic. It is very useful.

Queeltie you would have to drink gallons of water to make yourself ill. It very rarely happens.

Queeltie you would have to drink gallons of water to make yourself ill. It very rarely happens.

Not true. It is very common to make yourself ill by over dosing on water, and there are deaths every year.

In fact it is the most common cause of death among people taking part in sport.

"but I can't help but feel many of society's modern ills (obesity, the need for instant gratification, miniscule attention-spans, sleb-worship) are the direct result of such a lack of moral-fibre."
This in spades!!!

Charis, yes. that may be true. It's normally caused by drinking too much at once. Better to drink small amounts at regular intervals. A person sipping from a water bottle throughout the day isn't going to die from over drinking.

Deaths from water intoxication aren't common they are pretty rare and the result of MH issues or amateur runners not understanding how to deal with dehydration/electrolyte imbalance.

The costs in health/cost terms of dehydration - accidents(elderly fall and get utis)poor concentration, kidney problems, clotting(prone to more viscous blood),constipation are massive.
The sippers are right, keep hydrated particularly in hot weather.
Ask your GP/Doctor and they will recommend 2 litres of fluid a day minimum, it doesn't have to be water though.

I am currently sat wearinv one of those caps with a bottle of water on either side, a straw in to each bottle while watching Jeremy Kyle. All this arguing has given me a raging thirst.

The 2 litres of water a day is a myth. There is no scientific evidence for this at all. I know some GPs recommend it, they do not always follow scientific evidence either.

It is true older people don't always drink enough, and if you have certain health problems, you need to drink more. It is why some people in hospital are monitored on their fluid intake. It is not true that someone healthy and reasonably active needs to drink more than they do when thirsty.

The colour of your urine shows whether you are drinking enough.

Gin

I'm surprised it's water not voddy

I need a hat like tgat. does yours have clapping hands too?

Are you sure its not gin or wine ?

Thats OK on MN - drink as much booze as you like, drinking a bottle of wine everyday is normal but god forbid do not drink water ,you are lacking in moral fibre !

Xpost with Zing

The 2 litres of water a day was first reported in a beauty magazine. The amount is totally arbitrary and was dreamed up by the author. How much you need to drink depends on how much you are sweating and being active, and how much liquid there is in your diet.

queeltie 2 ls a day may be a myth but it's still a fair figure to aim for. It's nowhere near dangerous levels, and most people won't drink that much anyway (kind of like 5 a day and the safe alcohol levels). They're not set in stone but they're not unreasonable or extreme either.

Also if you are not drinking enough, you are more likely to get constipation long before it has any other impacts on your health.

Actually, looking at a litre bottle, I would say 1 litre would be fine (assuming no other drinks), unless it's very hot or you're being very physically active.

Elite athletes actually perform better in a slightly dehydrated state, many top marathon runners don't drink during a race. They obviously rehydrate carefully afterwards and in training. The human body is an amazing thing and the hunter gather who could keep running without constantly needing water was at an evolutionary advantage.

How much I drink varies day-to-day. If I am sitting Mumsnetting on the sofa , I don't need that much to drink. Yesterday when I went to an exercise class and was rushing about on foot various places, I drank more.

Unless you have health problems where it is relevant, or you are elderly and tend not to drink enough, it makes much more sense to listen to your body.

2 litres is about right for most people.
Based on insensible loss* of approx 1 litre a day on average ( more if you exercise a lot) it makes sense to replace that and ensure your kidneys/colon function correctly.

• losses from skin, breathing.

queeltie well I think most people do listen to their bodies. Water doesn't really taste nice, so people aren't drinking it for pleasure, are they? Unlike tea, coffee, coke or alcohol where people are getting a buzz.
You're right about constipation (though not the only cause). I've only ever had it in pregnancy. I've also never had a UTI or cystitis at the age of 55. I think drinking water has helped with both.

Cotto
good point

there

happy now OP?