To ask your salary, profession, location and years of experience

[Nosey77]

I know I am being really nosey and it's not very British to talk money. I was inspired by another thread where people are asking questions to all sorts of careers.

I was just wondering if people could take part and say what they do, how much they earn and where they are. Also, could you also provide advice on how to enter the profession and whether you recommend it. Thought this might be more u self than just go ogling as I get real life opinions and have found the other thread really insightful

Please let's not make anyone feel bad for what they are. I'll start

Retail assistant, 3 year, Leeds, £6.50ph. Whilst I actually enjoy it, I'm looking to leave. No advice needed - just hand in tour CVs

Beaufort

So at 29 you were with him for his erotic capital???

It's true. In the UK it is easier for some women to get a lot of money either in marriage or on divorce through their looks and sex than through average exam results and typical £20k salaries (the salaries on this thread are not typical presumably because people on higher incomes as it's anonymous on here are more prepared to disclose them).

Hakim is worth reading on Erotic Capital if anyone wants to buy the book www.amazon.co.uk/Honey-Money-Power-Erotic-Capital-ebook/dp/B005FMQA0W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437938278&sr=8-2&keywords=erotic+capital. Many have indulged it and there are countless slim pretty younger Russians in London who seek rich men, have the statutory 2 children and then divorce for the big pay out, never mind Wendy Deng who was helped to the US from China, had an affair with (and married?) her married host and then married Murdoch etc. It's a know route to power and money for plenty of women and it means we have that extra string to our bow. It is harder for a pretty young man in London to pull a £400k a year female earner because even well off women tend to want to marry up or an equal whereas men are still not derided because they pulled the young blonde with the big bust who earns a pittance, indeed it bolsters the male ego if their keep a wife.

It's only because of the very low standards of the avg male that some of us manage to have any erotic capital.

Might start charging DP for erotica per Capita....

Not sure why RedDaisyRed is being even slightly mocked for this ..... it's a fact.

Not mocking ....and I'm pretty sure RDR has a sense of humour anyway.

What's a high end car magzjobes45.

Idly curious - How do all you lawyers keep up to speed? UK law seems to be changing every four hours in recent years (and international law.) Do you go on squillions of courses, or just frantically check for updates whenever something comes up?

Trout, there is no rule that says all of an income needs to be spent.

Spot on.

I like it Garlick

"erotic capital"

I love the idea that at almost 60 I have 'erotic capital' to hand.

Now if I could just find my G Spot.

mixture of courses, reading stuff... we have someone in our office dedicated to keeping us all up to date with stuff etc. Though a lot of it is learning as it happens IYSWIM (that is to Garlick)

It helps to be very specialised of course! I really notice when we get someone "on the other side" who works in a firm where they have to be more generalist. Sometimes it's fine, other times, well they don't know what they're doing tbh, and rely a lot on the Bigfirm lawyers to keep them straight.

*Beaufort

So at 29 you were with him for his erotic capital??? wink*

Actually, Yep . Met him, the thought "I'll marry you entered my head" and then I gave myself a talking to that women like me didn't marry men like him. Intellectual yes, drop dead gorgeous with it no. We haven't been apart unless one of us has been on business since our second date . He was penniless when we met. He assures me it was my non monetary assets that did it

Ah I'll definitely tell dh I married him for his erotic capital. Dh has stated that he only kept me through uni because he viewed me as an investment, although going by this thread he should have married a lawyer.

Middle grade orthopaedic surgery registrar (non-training). 9 years post qualification. Earn just over £60k for full time with 1:6 24 hr oncalls and and additional 1:6 48hr weekend oncall. Love my job, love where I work. My bosses train me, let me do my own lists as able and I don't have to jump through the hoops that trainees do. How to get into? Become a doctor and grab a hammer :)

Wee, plenty of men of 60 think they have erotic capital or if they don't they buy it in at £200 at Dolphin square I suppose (his paunch looks pretty awful on the photos snorting cocaine)

Yes I have a sense of humour although there is definitely truth in my words. However I hope that as more and more of us women earn more and more than our men then things will even out a bit better.

As for how we lawyers keep up to date I like it as someone else said above so it's as much fun for me to read a judgement as watch a film. Also I get paid to give courses so never pay to go on one and i get paid to write law books and articles so in a sense I am being paid a nice extra income stream in order to keep up to date and yes every day of the year 365 days a year I am reading new law and keeping up to date. It is kind of a challenge to want to know more than anyone else in the UK and be the most up to date lawyer alive in my area. I updated 5 small sections of a law book today after doing 3 chargeable hours between 6 and 9 and then updated 3 chapters of another one on a different topic all for fees and all on a Sunday).. mind you I've just spent an hour on hands and knees with polish and cloths getting paint spatter off bannisters so I do my fair share of manual stuff and we have a full dishwasher just gone of - I emptied a full load at 6.30am, we had another by 2 and now another tonight. Very little of it is mine.

Right bed now.

Playworker for a charity
Great job, very rewarding but not great pay £20k p/a

Previous - retail manager somewhere around £35k & car etc.

Currently training and studying to go into a specialised role, but looking at another 5years before I'm fully qualified.

RedDaisy - did your ex-DH marry you for your erotic capital?

I also trained as a lawyer and worked in a medium sized firm for a while. I now work for a large international company and I run very specific (non legal) internal programs for them.

I work 30 hours a week (full time is 40), mostly from home and make the UK equivalent of about 70K plus benefits, pension contributions and a stock plan/bonus. Although it was hard when the children were small and there was one year if not two when my entire salary went on childcare, it was still worth if - for future earnings but also because I have a pension fund with about 300k in it because I have been making contributions for 20 years and company has been matching them.

When I started with the company even though my position had nothing to do with law, they paid me more because of my legal qualification. I am also taken more seriously on occasion because of it. I think being a lawyer is extremely stressful and they certainly earn their money. Doing it for a number of years meant I am very likely to get stressed at work by deadlines or confrontation - I already have experienced worse.

Thanks for the answers about keeping up to date :) I can see it's more feasible if you have a narrow specialism, as long as your sources are good enough. I don't envy the person tasked with keeping you all current, MissShun, but that person's brain must be a powerhouse of knowledge!

"RedDaisy - did your ex-DH marry you for your erotic capital?"
Most of us marry someone we find attractive. Apparently women's erotic capital can help at work too. Lucy Kellaway writing in the FT recently said today in rich big companies everyone is good looking and well groomed and it is a massive difference. Go back 30 years and there'd be the one with skin pitted by acne, the obese graduate, the ugly as sin one, the one in the dirty jumpers. I have found the same. I can almost distinguish when I give courses between those employed by top 10 firms and those in some small firm where you only need lower grades to get into based on visual issues only. It's a big change. My teenage son says it's because people put more effort in now but I think it's more than that. We've had a recession so you might ave 5 people to choose from for one job all with A* and first so you look to those who speak well and look good too. (The exception I make to this is computer/IT people in start ups one of whom I had to be warned about in advance - he doesn't wash or make eye contact and one client where only one person (again computer software) is really able to communicate with and attend meetings with lawyers. The others are brilliant but meetings are not something they can or will do).

Anyway short answer in choosing a partner yes sex and looks count.

I am afraid my conclusion from this thread is I am really lucky to be a lawyer, we earn at least 3x what most people seem to earn and many of us like it so might not be a bad thing if our own children do it too(and yes 2 of my children so far are lawyers and one other might be - one of his possible careers anyway and I will not put him off).

My dad married my mom because of her great legs.
Knowing my mom, Dad must have been great in bed or he would have had no chance with her.
He also helped her pass geometry so she she could get her English degree.

Mom supported the whole family when Dad was a student in law school and remained the main earner for first 5 yrs after he finished.

Which is why she got such a stonking alimony settlement 20 yrs later.
So good investments all round, for sex and future financial security.

I'm at how much teachers gets paid in the UK compared to here in France.

EFL teacher (head of dept), 6 years, Masters degree, FT 17k.

RedDaisyRed you have done a lot of things right.

LaChatte shocking! I work in education I forgot to mention my salary, as a teacher in the USA it was $35,000 PA fifteen years ago so it's probably a lot more, amazing how different countries rate for teachers is significantly different, I find the status of them changes too. I did have an masters so it was a little higher than average. I now make 50 p/h of the local currancy. It doesn't convert to much in the UK but it's considerably more than the minimum wage. I have a masters in psychology.
When I met my husband he was an engineering student, I had no idea then what a wage he would go on to make. He averaged about £100-£150 an hour when he left engineering, but he was pretty specialised in his field. Wasn't a bad investment, he was able to retire at 37 and buy a farm to live the rest of his days out of the corperate world. So I lucked in so to speak and married for love. There are 0 women at his level and most of the men are Indian, Chinese or Korean, yet he graduated with at least 7 or 8 women, none of whom earn as much as most of the men they graduated with.

Teaching wages have gone up and down. My mother supported my father for 10 years in the 1950s on her teaching wage whilst he qualified as a doctor and specialist (consultant). Then in the 80s my children's father nearly gave up his head of department teaching job because the pay was about the same as our nanny was costing us!!! Then suddenly teachers got a big pay rise so he carried on. Then under Labour they got big extra rises too which has put them ahead some countries in terms of wages although I read just yesterday about a big shortage of teachers in schools and recruitment agencies being paid a fortune at present to find teachers for lots of specialist vacancies so not sure of the current position. I know many jobs in the private sector more generally have not had pay rises and indeed cuts for 7 years whilst the public sector has at least had its 1% increases.

I still stick with my advice to my children to pick work you enjoy, ideally which is intellectually satisfying, high status, requires some kind of professional qualification most people cannot get and which might allow you to work for yourself in due course. Whether they take that up is up to them - one is currently not using his degree and is a postman which is fine because I don't have a production line to produce child clones of me although royal mail would not be my choice.