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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask your salary, profession, location and years of experience

630 replies

Nosey77 · 21/07/2015 12:49

I know I am being really nosey and it's not very British to talk money. I was inspired by another thread where people are asking questions to all sorts of careers.

I was just wondering if people could take part and say what they do, how much they earn and where they are. Also, could you also provide advice on how to enter the profession and whether you recommend it. Thought this might be more u self than just go ogling as I get real life opinions and have found the other thread really insightful

Please let's not make anyone feel bad for what they are. I'll start

Retail assistant, 3 year, Leeds, £6.50ph. Whilst I actually enjoy it, I'm looking to leave. No advice needed - just hand in tour CVs Smile

OP posts:
Suefla62 · 25/07/2015 19:48

IT Director
Oxbridge Masters
High six figures
20+ years

BeaufortBelle · 25/07/2015 20:23

Thank you. I am sorry for my posts and if they seem hurtful or ludicrous to anyone on this thread, many of whom I am in awe of at the way they manage very difficult circumstances. However, I felt the need to respond and prove I am my DH's equal, any man's equal in fact, in response to what felt high snarkism.

I am truly sorry for the circumstances many people find themselves in. My only defence is that neither DH nor I ever set out to earn or make a lot of money. It has been a by product of our respective passions and we try to put back in every bit as much as we have ever taken out.

BuggersMuddle · 25/07/2015 20:41

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Stingingthistle · 25/07/2015 20:47

Beaufort you've nothing to apologise for! Smile

honeylulu · 26/07/2015 00:11

Lawyer, City of London, 11 years qualified. £80k plus bonus.
Betty work/life balanced firm. We all moan about the pay which is way below the City average but I think for the hours and effort expected, I've actually got quite a cushy deal. (8-4 x 2 days, 8-5 x3 days, including one day working at home).
I have worked my arse off to get here though including returning to work when my first was four months old. And everything we do is on the clock so its easy to "prove" how valuable you are to the firm. Meet your targets, however/whenever it's done and the partners are happy. Nothing talks like money talks and money doesn't care which sex you are!

RedDaisyRed · 26/07/2015 10:03

Beaufort all I did was reverse the sexes because time after time on here by huge coincidence and never apparently because of sexism women go off to earn very little and men earn a packet and women make all the sacrifices and that is something we need to stop. Looking at the causes of it is one way to prevent it occurring. One reason is because some women marry men who are brighter or earn more whether deliberately or subconsciously. Another is sexism.

Anyway I agree with honeyl - nothing talks like money talks. If you're the best at work and clients want you no one cares if you've one arm and green skin

NewFlipFlops · 26/07/2015 10:16

No.

NewFlipFlops · 26/07/2015 10:23

As in, no you can't ask and YABU.

YeOldeTrout · 26/07/2015 10:45

Don't ignore InHouseLawyer, RedDaisy, who has done things in a manner of which you approve.

Christinayanglah · 26/07/2015 10:50

LHreturns

You will get there, it's just that your perspective on life has changed so younger coming at things from a different angle. You will find your way with it, took me a little time to get back into the swing of things

Ginoginoginelli · 26/07/2015 10:53

NC. Recruitment consultant, London. Base salary £25k and total earnings for last year £114k - no qualifications (1 AS Level) and I'm 29 now but very very stressful, no ability to predict earnings (can earn a lot one month and very little the next), long hours. Been doing it for 2 and a half years.

RedDaisyRed · 26/07/2015 10:58

Indeed. I am not criticising anyone but obviously it's a great pity when women sacrifice their careers on the altar of a man to earn pin money whilst men earn the big bucks and sadly it happens all the time and we all know who later most regrets it - women. You rarely turn around when you're 55 and be glad you've ironed 10 shirts a week and were able to clean the house a lot more than your other half.

thebestfurchinchilla · 26/07/2015 11:00

ginoginon?? How did you get into that job out of interest?

YeOldeTrout · 26/07/2015 11:14

RedDaisy...

Judging from MN some people love cleaning (shrug).

How can you say you're not criticising but then call it 'a pity'?

BeaufortBelle · 26/07/2015 11:27

I'm 55 and have just thoroughly enjoyed ironing 7 work shirts, 7 hankies and 7 boxers to The Archers. DH likes the way I iron best and as I do it I think of him fondly. It is what makes a woman's lifer richer than any financial gain. It is called Love it is always best freely given and without resentment.

Happiness is what matters most and that is what we have. The means by which we achieved it is nobody else's business and requires no comment.

Ginoginoginelli · 26/07/2015 11:34

chinchilla I looked at sales jobs as I wanted a base salary that wouldn't let me totally starve but uncapped earnings based on merit. I have nothing but charm to recommend me - no education to speak of or friends in high places.

I applied to do sales roles at magazine companies (to sell ad space) and also the bigger high street branches (reed, Office Angels) then went for an assessment day with a firm that works for the investment banks in Canary Wharf. With my intake, most people left after a year or less - it is very aggressive in terms of meeting KPIs. But - if you are good at it, it is a good earner. But you can lose a £10k fee on the basis that the IT guy you had at final rounds had flu and couldn't go and the hirer CBA to reschedule and takes the other candidate from another supplier.

Ad Sales would probably be a better balance!

Orangeisthenewbanana · 26/07/2015 11:39

Band 7 physio London (NHS)
£37k (but pro rata now PT)
14 years qualified (BSc Hons)

LHReturns · 26/07/2015 11:42

Hear hear Beaufort. There is no 'pity' in any if this. RedDaisy in your original post about this you sounded incredibly critical and pointed at Beaufort's particular happy situation.

While I don't do the ironing (DP would not be pleased with the result), he earns many multiples of what I ever have (on some levels he is smarter than me, on others I am smarter), works crazy hours, and has not been able to immerse himself in our one year old nearly as much as I have. He thinks I am lucky for that, as do I - especially as my return to work has been very challenging partly because am besotted with my son and but also suffered from quite bad PND (christinayanglah thank you for the lovely reassurance). So thank god I have a great man holding us all together. Because he loves me and loves our family.

At no point has it crossed my mind that I am sacrificing anything, but that I am so fortunate to have choices - unlike some of the other brilliant women who have posted in this thread.

I rather suspect Beaufort won't have time when she is 55 to be thankful for ironing her DH shirts (which clearly she can afford to get someone else to do if she so chose), as she will be so busy enjoying her life and happy marriage.

BeaufortBelle · 26/07/2015 11:54

Ha, ha, I am 55!!

UptheChimney · 26/07/2015 12:01

all I did was reverse the sexes because time after time on here by huge coincidence and never apparently because of sexism women go off to earn very little and men earn a packet and women make all the sacrifices and that is something we need to stop

I agree. I'm not making any personal comments on specific posters here, but it is not a coincidence that usually it's the woman who makes sacrifices in her earning power over her career, and her pension.

And is usually treated shabbily if her high-earning (or even normal-earning) husband decides to trade her in for a younger model. I was advised never to give up my job, and that was excellent advice.

Christinayanglah · 26/07/2015 12:10

It wasn't a sacrifice giving up work for a few years to be with ds, I loved every minute of it and it's a choice I would make over and over again

LHReturns · 26/07/2015 12:19

Upthechimney I think your final point is a good one, if provocative. I do believe that a woman needs to find ways to stay interesting, independent-spirited and don't forget the woman he fell in love with (and 100% vice versa - men need to do the same).

I am one of the younger models (although there were 6 years between ex wife and me) and certainly intend to keep it that way. It might not be through doing exactly the same thing I did before I had DS though, and I don't see that as a sacrifice. Accept that some might, but for me life moves in cycles, and this is a fresh cycle.

UptheChimney · 26/07/2015 12:30

I do believe that a woman needs to find ways to stay interesting, independent-spirited and don't forget the woman he fell in love with

I'm glad you added the vice versa, but generally, the pressure is on the woman to remain "interesting."

We live in a deeply sexist society, and I suppose for a lot of women, it's in their interests not to recognise that.

RedDaisyRed · 26/07/2015 12:34

I certainly agree it's best not to make these threads personal. The political issue is that a women's repeated choices to stay home and men's not to is why women own 1% of the world's wealth and earn only a third of its income and why in the UK women have 20% not 50% or 80% of positions of power because again and again on a personal level it is they sacrificing career for men.

The ironing made me smile. Yesterday one of my 2 teenagers came to see me about ironing. He bought a shirt for the first time and it's just come out of the washing. No one irons here and no one wears shirts really (their school shirts don't need ironing). So we went over for a lesson in ironing - I said this is something I will never do and it's just about the worst activity on the planet and to be balanced I said some people enjoy it, listen to the radio and find it a kidn of contemplative almost spiritual exercise. We could not find where you put the water into the iron but I did remember how to open up the board (this kind of learned domestic helplessness stands many a woman and man in good stead in avoiding tedious domestic tasks - I recommend it). i also said some well off men and women pay others to iron for them. I showed him how you push down the iron although of course made it clear it's hard to do and I can't really do it and left him to it. I have not bothered to look at the result. If he wants stuff ironed he can do it himself. Life is too short to stuff mushrooms etc.

By the way you can love your family without ironing! I do God's work and express love for children as much this morning between 6 and 9am doing 3 hours of work as 2 hours of ironing. You don't need to be martyr mother to be wondrous lover or great parent.

UptheC is of course right about men running off with younger women. I was maused in today's paper to read an unnamed city worker scared stiff about the Life is short, have an affair website. He had had 3 children in 6 year and done all in his power to protect his wife from his 11 on the side relationships/affairs - separate phone, separate uber account, separate cards. His friend immediately emailed him with the Ashley madison breach occurred so he went off to a bar shaking. He ditched his burner phone and started a mass of deletions. Some of his friends went home to tell their wife but he thinks he won't be discovered.

Anyway my adv ice to all my children in life is spread risk - have two careeers, carees where you can work for yourself i you have to, investments or a buy to let - just make sure you never put all eggs into one basket.

BeaufortBelle · 26/07/2015 12:41

Completely agree with the bit at the end.

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