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to think i shouldnt be blamed for someone elses health problems?

103 replies

jasminedxx · 18/07/2015 21:09

Hi im really pissed off about this so if i am being unreasonable tell me,
i have just moved to a new property its social housing, i am the middle flat of a 3 storey building
there is no sound proofing in here, i hear the guy upstairs and i know the old man downstairs hears me,
i walk around in slippers, no young children are allowed in my flat, i dont play loud music and i have now started to turn my tv off at 8pm and watch things with headphones on the laptop.

received a letter today from neighbourhood manager stating i must carpet my floor within 10days since the housing association have provided me with 200 pounds towards carpet right.
200 will not carpet my flat
i will have to add my own money
i have also already told them i am allergic to carpet and will get vinyl planks yet they insist carpet since they are giving me 200
also in this letter they have stated the neighbour downstairs has complained about my noise and it is having a "negative impact on the health and wellbeing of your neighbor"

the guy who lives downstairs is an old man so if he drops dead tomorrow it seems like they are blaming me?
maybe im being dramatic?

the guy downstairs also complained about the last woman who lived here, he doesnt get along with my upstairs neighbor because he complained about something about him i don't know but he is just a serial complainer, he expects complete silence

im not trying to be a nuisance but i feel a bit picked on tbh
aibu?

i have lived with noise from upstairs and i understand its stressful but i hear the guy upstairs and he has carpet in his flat.

i work 16 hours so i do not earn that much to be adding the extra money in 10 days, i also have a 4 week old baby and my mother just died in may.

OP posts:
Jasminedxx · 18/07/2015 21:56

Accepting the £200 and not laying carpet they cannot evict me over this. Again there is nothing in the tenacy agreement to state I must lay carpet.
I told them I am allergic to carpet.

This is not the issue anyway, it's the fact they are trying to blame someone's health problems on me.

OP posts:
ghostyslovesheep · 18/07/2015 21:59

gosh you are rude :) I am off don't worry

buy some carpet

night x

Jasminedxx · 18/07/2015 21:59

DevilsAvocado, yes because he use to constantly knock on my door about me walking, moving furniture when I just moved in, hoovering, hanging a picture at 3pm.
So I started doing all this but he still complains.
I have banned visitors until I get my floor down, only people who come here are handy men when I need something fixed.

OP posts:
DarthVadersTailor · 18/07/2015 22:00

OP what flooring do you have currently?

Jasminedxx · 18/07/2015 22:02

Cathy, it's cork boards down now which are on top of the original floor boards.
After 8pm im in bed on my laptop

OP posts:
Mumstheword2b · 18/07/2015 22:02

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

The5DayChicken · 18/07/2015 22:03

They're probably not best impressed that they gave you money to buy carpet, specifically because flats have this issue, and you accepted it but didn't buy carpet. It's now costing them even more money to deal with the complaints.

There are a lot of posters with this type of attitude today Hmm. Why are so many of you understand to accept such simple things?

ilovesooty · 18/07/2015 22:06

This is barmy, you accepted the money, of course you have to fit carpet. They are not saying if your neighbour drops dead it is your fault, just that the noise is impacting his health and wellbeing

Precisely.

IgnoreMeEveryOtherReindeerDoes · 18/07/2015 22:07

Put it in writing that you are allergic to carpet and what you intend to and ask if this is acceptable make sure you get confirmation back in writing.

Also they have to follow up complaints but if you feel they are wrong write back and say so. Make sure you keep a written record of everything.

Tbh I don't know what kind of carpet sound proofing they expect £200 will buy as underlay makes all the difference and mine was bloody expensive.

msgrinch · 18/07/2015 22:07

completely agree with pp. yabvu and selfish.

whothehellknows · 18/07/2015 22:08

OP, rugs are possibly the way forward. It's hard to clean carpets properly, but rugs can be taken outside and beaten to remove the majority of the dust.

carpet shampoo machines are also helpful.

The5DayChicken · 18/07/2015 22:09
  • unable. Not understand. That makes no sense.
DarthVadersTailor · 18/07/2015 22:10

Cork boards ARE a hard flooring, so you are in breach of that condition.

I can understand you not wanting to carpet the whole place but surely you can buy a rug?

Or how about just showing some consideration for your neighbours and doing as you've been asked, and paid, to do?? Why do you seem to think you can just get this £200 for nothing?!

Talismania · 18/07/2015 22:10

I don't understand. You are renting. Why are you having to pay for carpeting at all? Shouldn't your landlord cover the entire cost?

MiscellaneousAssortment · 18/07/2015 22:10

Have you considered that there IS a noise problem? I lived in a flat which had awfully loud sounds from upstairs, luckily they were nice and we were nice so we did some listening and experimenting to see what was happening. They were horrified to hear how their almost silent movement in their flat was translated into crashes and bangs in ours. It was due to badly laid floors and pipes touching each other which created an amplification effect. We rubbed along fine after that with a bit of grace on both sides, and then it all got ripped out and the problem vanished yay!

Maybe you should stop being all affronted and riled up and find out what exactly is going on?

BankWadger · 18/07/2015 22:12

Why did you change your name half way through the thread? Not cool OP.

The5DayChicken · 18/07/2015 22:15

That's not normally the case for HA tenants Talis. I'm in a HA property and had to fork out for pretty much everything, even a bath. This place was an empty shell with a disabled-access shower and was deemed suitable for me and my then-very-small baby.

Cabawill · 18/07/2015 22:16

My DS is allergic to carpet and dust and dust mites. A good antihistamine taken daily really helps to minimise symptoms.

PaperdollCartoon · 18/07/2015 22:23

I'm also in a HA property, living above an elderly (luckily very lovely) man, I also had to carpet the whole place myself, I'd have loved £200 towards the cost, flat was also a shell and had to pay for everything from carpet to curtain rails to every single appliance. It is reasonable to underlay and carpet a 1st or above floor flat, the noise goes right through the floor. Its also heat insulating, you'll save a lot of money on heating with carpet down. If you're genuinely allergic to carpet get a doctors letter and send it to the HA, but I don't understand why you accepted the £200 for carpet if you had no intention of carpeting, I think that's fraud?

WayneRooneysHair · 18/07/2015 22:24

What were the circumstances of you getting the £200 OP?

ollieplimsoles · 18/07/2015 22:37

Ouch OP, I can't believe you are getting a flaming on here when you have a four week old baby, sound like you are living alone and are worried about money.

You sound reasonable and you should be able to enjoy your flat, its not your fault you are allergic to carpet. You deal with the noise from above, this guy below you should do too- he lives in a flat, there will be noise.

YouMakeMyDreams · 18/07/2015 22:40

She didn't change her name she just added a capital letter which means the op doesn't show up in colour.
I think people are being pretty hard on you op. It does sound extremely stressful, especially with such a young baby you will be worrying evertime there is a peep out of them.
I also think people are misunderstanding the £200. The op has not been given £200 and told it is for carpets specifically it is just for carpetright shop. I would imagine that most if not all people moving into her HA houses are given them and they are towards flooring not because she has a grumpy neigbour, she will not even have been told specifically what type of flooring she has to spend it on, only that is the shop it's for it's towards flooring. £200 is not going to cover the whole flat so the OP is expected to add money of her own to it to do that and from carpeting my own house it is usually cheaper to wait until you can do whole house as you often get discounts etc for buying a large amount of the same carpet. My local council doesn't do flooring it gives decorating vouchers, each tenant gets a different amount depending on the condition of the property when you move in I am assuming this HA gives vouchers towards flooring.

Hellionsitem2 · 18/07/2015 22:46

Must be very hard with a new baby and your mother passing away.

How about getting washable rugs instead? Ikea might do them? But if underlay underneath. Runners for the hallway.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 18/07/2015 23:38

I wrote along post but lost it so I'll just say this:

Your leap from 'mans health impacted by noise' to 'he'll die and 'they' will blame me', well, it's a massive bungee jump of a leap.
I can only assume that either you are projecting, or that you have a reason for wanting to ridicule the effects of noise on an elderly man.

These things can be sorted out by constructive reasoning, and by human empathy. They can also be highly destructive disputes leaving both parties hurt, angry and with no good solution. It's your choice what role you decide to play, but I suspect you want some payback or to 'win', which is a shame.

It's interesting that you feel your own health concerns must lead the situation, yet are angry and insulted when someone tries to inform you about the effect your actions are having.

Being acquainted with the facts is not an insult or some kind of hideous affront. I don't know why you think you have a right to be sheltered from the cause and effect reality of what's happening? Very odd.

I'd suggest calming down and thinking rather than this vitriolic anger and determination to win by makg your Neighbour lose.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 18/07/2015 23:42

And last point - I'm sorry you're going through a lot at the moment OP, but I don't think getting angry with your neighbour will make things any easier.

I do wonder if that's the cause of the mental gymnastics going on though? Because you're under a lot of emotional strain and juggling too many things. Is there help or support you can access?