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About my Bil

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Cheesecake1980 · 18/07/2015 08:06

Sorry this could be long but I really need to rant.
Bil has quite a stressful job, away a lot. He has a partner but no children. He also owns quite a few rental properties. He is the busiest man on earthSmile.
My DH is self employed the last few years have been a real struggle but things are turning a corner and the business is starting to do well.
I have 2 children and work for my DH part time from home.
Pil are very wealthy. Have given Bil £150k over the years for his various investment projects (one of which lost £80K).
When we were struggling nobody offered any help. Bil said to me that If DH couldn't make his business work then 'he should give it up & get a proper job'.
We do ALL the hosting for everything. Birthdays christmas etc. Bil & his partner are far too busy to host anything and pick & choose which events they attend.
However, they are very good with my children taking them out etc, but this is very much on their terms when they have time.

Really came to a head the other day when bil was prepared to let my elderly Mil do something because he was far too busy.
I think his way of thinking is cheesecake can do it as she is at home.
I ended up doing it. This happens a lot with either myself or my DH doing stuff because he just can't find the time.
He is very self centered and very much the golden child in my Pil eyes.
DH doesn't seem bothered and just says let him get on with it. With regards to the money he has been given we both view it that my Pil can do what they like with their money and we are not entitled in any way.

But I am getting so fed up with his attitude. Especially after the other day & just don't know how to handle him.

The only person who loves bil more than himself is his partner who treats him like a god.
Not sure if I need advice or just needed to rant. Sorry it's long!

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sadwidow28 · 18/07/2015 18:59

Well thank goodness you got the best male out of this toxic IL situation. Now I understand why your DH agrees with you but doesn't have the skills to break the cycle.

So MIL is brow-beaten by FIL and eldest son. Eldest son has married someone who 'worships him'. Between them, they have got you 'rescuing' MIL and family situations.

Well, I am going to send you some big girl pants! You are going to need them to safeguard your family unit, your MIL and your DPs from any more of the shenanigans.

You sound so lovely and caring in your posts. I think you needed to rant today - but I also think you were asking if there was anything you could do to change things because you are almost at the end of your tether.

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AdeleDazeem · 18/07/2015 21:23

*Christmas I would LOVE to go away. However, it is my DM birthday (significant bday)

Maybe, we should visit them instead*

Sounds like an absolutely perfect reason to break the trend. Let PiL know in plenty of time that this year the Cheesecake family will be spending Christmas with CheesecakeParents as it's CheesecakeMum's (significant) birthday.

If anyone has any complaints about that it will hopefully motivate you to do a lot less in the future for people who do not appreciate it.

DH had very similar with his family. He used to do all sorts for them - lifts, childcare, technical support - until his circs changed and he could no longer drop everything and do favours. So his family were very unimpressed with him and he was pissed off that no-one was there for him after years of him being there for others.

WhereYouLeftIt · 18/07/2015 22:25

I can only agree with others who have advised you to break the cycle. You have become the default host, I doubt if it even occurs to BIL/PIL that hosting is anything to do with them now. This Christmas, go to your parents. Start talking about it ASAP so they know to make their own arrangements. On your return, talk enthusiastically about how much you enjoyed the change, and that you're thinking now of doing something different every year, maybe Lapland for the DC next. Doesn't matter if you actually do (or want to do), it just makes it clear to them that you will no longer be hosting Christmas and they need to make their own plans. Ask what they will be doing. All this will hammer home that YOU ARE NOT HOSTING.

  1. "when HE decides we should all be together then all the stops are pulled out to make him happy (usually with us hosting)."
  2. "We are expected to drop everything all the time and I'm just fed up of it ."
You can't change them, but you can change you. Just don't host at his behest. He can't force you. And if he tries to guilt you into it, just bat it back to him. 'No that doesn't work for us, you'll have to make other arrangements.' and variations thereof. If PIL want to pull out the stops, fine, but you don't have to. Let them know you're happy to attend whatever they arrange, but sadly no, you're very busy right now and can't possibly spare the time to do it for them but you're sure whatever they arrange themselves will be lovely. Polite, firm, and detached is the way to go.

amothersplaceisinthewrong Sat 18-Jul-15 15:09:19
"These PIL will get elderly and more dependent as time goes on. If you don't act now, you may wake up to find they are living in your house with you as their full time carer with BIL and partner inheriting everything. .... think about what you are prepared to take on and what you don't want to do - it is OK to say no."
This is where I think you should really focus your efforts, because odds on BIL is already taking this for granted. I would possibly start introducing the idea to your PIL, maybe MIL alone at first if you think she would be more receptive. 'MIL, you're 78, it's only sensible to start planning for the future, your recent mini-stroke has brought that home to me. I won't be able to do the level of care that you and FIL might need, and I'm sorry but my children will always come first, so I think you need to start looking into what you want and how you're going to finance that. I'm so glad you have a good chunk of equity in this house, it will give you so much more choice.' And step back having set the cat amongst the pigeons .

"PIL house is worth about £1m . They took out a mortgage on it for £100K to bil for this investment ( not for them). BIL has to meet the repayments for this mortgage. He says that when they pass away the house is his as he pays the mortgage. I think PIL have put the house in his name."
Well if they've put the house in his name, more fool them. I'd probably also casually drop into conversation with BIL that very few people drop down dead in a healthy state, more often death is preceded by years of care and does he plan to sell their house to meet their care costs, or will he be meeting the costs himself and selling the house only once they die? His is, after all, "the oldest child [who] is in charge of the family money." And step back having set that rabbit running .

It is imperative that you start making it clear that you will absolutely not be your PILs carers and that now is the time for them to put their preferred arrangements in place. Assumptions are being made right now, and about more than bloody Christmas.

mickeysminnie · 18/07/2015 22:50

I think WhereYouLeftIt has hit the nail on the head.

workingdilemma · 18/07/2015 23:13

Exactly what one would expect from a Buy To Letter. YANBU - he sounds awful.

Cheesecake1980 · 19/07/2015 10:35

whereyouleftit wow thank you. Amazing advice.
sadwidow28 yes I did get the best one. How DH can be so kind and caring growing up with these two bullies I will never know.
Thank you for the big girl pants, this worm is definitely turningGrin

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MistressDeeCee · 19/07/2015 12:52

Brilliant advice from Where only 1 thing tho - it will work only if your DH is 100% on side with you..if he isn't then thats a whole other story - you are one half of a couple, its not just you. & its his family. Good luck tho.

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