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To already be fed up with teachers/eduaction workers posting about their long holiday!

815 replies

Freshlysqueezed · 17/07/2015 19:26

Facebook is swarming with people saying how much they deserve it and other people patting them on the back. It seems like the world and his wife are in education or SAHM's with 6 glorious weeks ahead of them. Apart from a one week holiday I have a juggling timetable of various childcare arrangements to run to and fro from.

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Wideopenspace · 17/07/2015 20:38

mitzy are you spying on me? Grin

HagOtheNorth · 17/07/2015 20:38

Yup, tillie. But you have to be seriously dim to rub other people's noses in your good fortune. Especially if they are the sort to resent it.
I had easy pregnancies, two children who slept and ate like dream babies, and thrived and were cheerful little souls.
Catch me telling the wild-eyed stressed-out fellow new parents that? No. They wouldn't have been happy for me, they'd have either hated my guts or wept that they were doing something wrong.
So I didn't. In the same way that my facebook is clear of posts that could be taken as smuggery or boasting even by the lovely people I choose to have as friends.

Janeymoo50 · 17/07/2015 20:39

I wish them all a great break, my dad was a teacher but also spent many hours at home still working etc and that was 40 years ago, I imagine it's even worse now. I can't imagine also the horrors many of them deal with each day, abuse, swearing, aggressive parents etc.

Lizzylou · 17/07/2015 20:39

Ellie, I can put a plaster on my dc's scrapes, doesn't mean that I am a nurse Hmm
Teaching is a profession, and a demanding one (but certainly not more demanding than others), don't be so dismissive and arrogant, I am sure that you didn't wish to come across so appallingly Thanks

123Jump · 17/07/2015 20:39

I don't think anyone is saying teachers are crap at their job, just that they moan about how hard they work and that they seem to feel they 'deserve' their summer break?

CultureSucksDownWords · 17/07/2015 20:40

I have a fb friend who is a nurse. Not a week goes by without a moan of some sort about her hours/shifts. Do I extrapolate from this that all nurses are whingy and work shy? Of course not. I can see it is just my friend who likes a moan.

If people genuinely think teaching is a cushy deal with an excellent pension, why on earth aren't they doing teacher training? There are shortages in many areas and subjects!

123Jump · 17/07/2015 20:42

But nurses hours/shifts more often than not are shite.Confused
I don't think teaching is cushy, but I certainly don't think it is the hardest job in the country either.

EllieFAntspoo · 17/07/2015 20:43

"Makes me laugh folk thinking Teaching is easy"

This is categorically not what has been said. I hope you don't teach comprehension!

Yes it has. I said it. Grin

CultureSucksDownWords · 17/07/2015 20:48

I have no idea about nurses shifts, I'm not a nurse. I do think that nursing is extremely hard work for low pay, and no doubt does have long hours.

As far as I can see, teachers are just not allowed ever to in any way comment about work, hours and stress. Because if you do, people immediately jump to the idiotic conclusion that you're saying that being a teacher is the hardest and most stressful job. Which is clearly isn't. Why does it have to be a bloody competition?

Lizzylou · 17/07/2015 20:49

123jump, teachers will probably pop up on teacher bashing threads to defend themselves, stands to reason really!
You never get nurse bashing threads, if we ever do I am sure you would be first in the queue to put your point across Grin

123Jump · 17/07/2015 20:49

Well if it was, teachers deffo think they are the Olympic Champions,Grin!

Lizzylou · 17/07/2015 20:50

Why does it have to be a bloody competition?

Exactly, Culture!

sonjadog · 17/07/2015 20:50

Six weeks? I have eight weeks off.

I love the long summer holiday. It is one of the reasons I became a teacher. I don't think I deserve my holiday more or less than anyone else deserves theirs. The holiday comes with the job so I take it. If you want the long holiday yourself, then consider going into teaching.

mizu · 17/07/2015 20:52

Can I just mention that not all teachers have 6 weeks off.

I work in FE and have about 4 depending on how I've used the rest of my hols over the year. Still good, I know.

Not on FB so don't know about bragging but as a teacher the only time I have a lunch break in the academic year is the last 2 weeks of term when we have exams on.

And I am in next week to do some work (unpaid of course) because there is so much to do in prep for next term, I will never get it all done the few days before September.

In FE we are very much underpaid and work very hard. If I was full time I would be on about £26,000 and I've been a teacher for 20 years and run a department.

Suefla62 · 17/07/2015 20:57

Well I'm going to enjoy every minute of my unpaid leave.

soverylucky · 17/07/2015 20:57

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sonjadog · 17/07/2015 21:01

I don't see what "deserve" has to do with it. You take the holiday leave your job contract includes, in agreement with the place you work.

Are there people who only take time off work if they feel they deserve it? Do they work through their holidays if they feel that they don't?

jellybeans · 17/07/2015 21:04

Good luck and enjoy I say!
I am a SAHM and love the hols. However I take the downsides of SAH for the benefits if it.

I think long school holidays will soon be a thing of the past sadly. This is because it is only a matter of time till governments want schools to run from 8-6 and with much less holidays. I would be very against this but I think it will happen.

Wideopenspace · 17/07/2015 21:05

Also, the holidays are rather designed so that children can have a break...

phlebasconsidered · 17/07/2015 21:09

I went into teaching at 34. Before that, I worked as a consultant in the city, and I often worked massively long days overseeing projects. It was often very stressful, particularly during contract work. It was competative, cut-throat, and I was expected to just do the job and shut-up. I had 9 weeks annual leave. If i'd stayed in the job it would have risen to 12.

Teaching is the same. I work long days, it's stressful, particularly leading up to exams. It's competative and i'm league tabled, observed, and paid according to results. I'm expected to do the job and shut up.

I get three weeks more holiday per year than I did as a consultant.

I get paid 15K less, and no overtime (which used to be a brilliant thing as a consultant) and no bonus. My pension is no longer as fab as it was. And I pay for it, a large chunk out of my wages.

It's not a moan. I love the job. It's not as fun as it was, due to increasing pressure, but I'm still glad I chose it. It just makes me sad to read the teacher hating threads. I'm lucky in that my Year 6 class did well this year, and the parents have universally seen how hard the teachers and school have worked. I'd hate to think that any of them were sat there hating me for a few extra weeks holiday. I don't think they are. They saw how my class are with me at the Leaver's do, they saw the results, the teaching and beyond. I don't think they'd begrudge me a break before I do it all again in September!

Downtheroadfirstonleft · 17/07/2015 21:11

Some teachers just seem to think their jobs are the only stressful ones about. It's crazy.

wherehavealltheflowersgone · 17/07/2015 21:15

It's a wonderful job, teaching. I love it and I wouldn't do anything else.
And yes the holidays are an amazing bonus!
So why not join us OP? There's plenty of vacancies, it's not exactly a closed sect :)

CultureSucksDownWords · 17/07/2015 21:17

Which teachers, downtheroad? And does that mean it's ok to slag off all teachers?

exLtEveDallasNoBollocks · 17/07/2015 21:17

I'm not a teacher, and this time last year I may well have been voicing similar opinions. But I've been working in a school for the last 5 months and by Christ has my attitude changed.

Certainly the teachers (and TAs and Support Staff and HT) at my school deserve every second of their break (and double their shitty wages). I have had my eyes opened, seriously, and do not begrudge them a second of it.

(And saying that, every single one of my new colleagues are NOT having 6 weeks off. They are all planning to go in, some for up to two weeks, because they need the time without the kids to get all the stuff done that they haven't been able to complete)

LokiBear · 17/07/2015 21:19

Teachers do not get paid for the holidays. It is a perk of the job. An unpaid perk, but a perk non the less. People never seem to get annoyed at those who drive a company car or who travel to exotic places with their job. Lots of my friends who aren't teachers feel they deserve their holiday. I feel the same about mine. If it makes you feel any better, I will be back in next week clearing my classroom, sorting my office and planning. I have at least two weeks worth of planning to do. During my unpaid holiday. I still love my job thoughSmile