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AIBU?

to keep a secret account

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Bullshitbingo · 06/07/2015 10:17

I am a sahm, my DH works full time in a job he enjoys and is reasonably well paid. We have a comfortable but not lavish lifestyle. We have two small DC and I became a sahp after the birth of our first child a few years ago. The plan is for me to go back to work at least part time when my youngest is in school. This was a joint decision and one that we are both happy with. I get to be with the children whilst they're young, and he can relax and concentrate on work because he has no stress at home.

We have joint finances, all money is family money. My DH is perfect in this respect and never makes me feel in any way beholden to him because he is earning money and I am not. I've always worked, since i was 16, i funded myself through higher education, and it was a big deal for me to leave work and put myself in the vulnerable position of depending upon someone else to support me financially. My DH knows this, and has taken care to be sensitive and respectful about it.

I manage the family finances including the joint account, and our children's savings accounts, whilst my dh and i both have personal accounts for what you could call 'disposable income'. Our savings account (which doesn't have very much in it at the moment) is in my DH's name, not for any particular reason, this is just how it was and we never changed it.

Anyway, to the point of my thread, sorry its long - didn't want to drip feed.

I have an account that he doesn't know about. Its just a little savings account with a few hundred quid in it. Whenever i come into a bit of money that i don't spend - for example i had a recent birthday and was given some cash by my parents, i pop some aside into this account. I've been doing this for a year or so, and at first there was no point mentioning it to DH as it wasn't worth it, but the more money i have in there, the more i wonder if i'm being really deceitful by not telling him? We don't need the money for anything, and i started off by telling myself that it wasn't important, but i think if i'm honest with myself, its my way of retaining some financial independence. As happy as my marriage is, i've read a lot of horror stories on here about awful things that can happen to sahp's in the event of a breakup, so i think i may be creating a bit of an insurance policy for myself? I'm, starting to feel less and less comfortable with it, and thinking that i should tell him? As far as i'm aware he doesn't have any money that i don't know about, and we don't have any other secrets in our relationship. We're very open with each other, which is why this is quite unusual.

Typing this all out, i'm ready to concede that i am being totally unreasonable, but i'm interested to see what my fellow Mumsnetters think? And also, a part of me is really reluctant to give up this little account as its become a bit of a comfort blanket knowing I have that money there.

So - AIBU? Do any of you have a 'secret' accounts, and if so, what should i do/what would you do?

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WayneRooneysHair · 06/07/2015 11:18

I'm very open with my wife about finances (as I should be) but it'd bother me if she had a 'secret' account that she didn't tell me about and I'd question why she didn't tell me. She knows that I have a savings account and I know that she does too, we don't really have anything in there as we have a joint savings account anyway.

So whilst YANBU to have a seperate savings account I think that YABU slightly by not telling DH.

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happy2bhomely · 06/07/2015 11:23

I have a running away fund! I'm a SAHM too. DH knows I have it and he knows what it's for! As in, I've told him directly that it's money for me to use just in case he ever turns into an arsehole! He said he understands. I don't believe in secrets, but I do think it's sensible to be able to get your hands on cash, for lots of reasons. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

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hippoinamudhole · 06/07/2015 14:22

I have "secret" money. My DH knows I have "secret" money. I produce it when we want/need something above day to day living. It's come in useful lots of times

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WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 06/07/2015 14:28

Yabu for the secrecy alone. If he is fully open and joint in all finances, and you are pretending that you are too while accumulating family money in a secret account, thats unreasonable.
How would you feel if he was hiding a secret account from you and saving for in case you split up?

Nothing wrong with having the account, everything wrong with keeping it secret. And get tne savings ac changed to joint names.

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lynniep · 06/07/2015 15:01

I have my own account.
Its not a secret (although DH has probably forgotten about it now) I just never closed it when we got a joint account.
DH did query why I felt the need to keep it initially, but promptly forgot to care.
I use it for saving up for things which would otherwise not get saved up for (at the moment there's a grand in there - this will cover the car hire and apt. for our summer holiday) I DD a certain amount into it each month. I also organise all finances so DH wouldn't know one way or the other, but I'm not deliberately being deceitful. I just need to know we have a buffer as he has precisely no clue about our incomings and outgoings.

Did you have your account before you married your DH?

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Somersetlady · 06/07/2015 15:07

Change the name on the account in his sole name and transfer your money into that IF it would make you feel better.

I have accounts in my name alone as does hubby and we have a joint account for all house and family stuff. DO what ever suits you as a couple and sits well with you as a person.

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ImperialBlether · 06/07/2015 15:48

I just don't understand why money from birthdays etc should go into a joint pot. What does he do with birthday money?

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Fizzielove · 06/07/2015 15:57

What would everyone think if OP had ££££'s hidden? Does the amount matter?

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Timetodrive · 06/07/2015 16:06

when I was a SAHM I had an account which was for the escape fund and also pension money that I was loosing. I had the conversation with him and told him my reason, which are very justifiable. I would not of kept a secret fund and I would of reviewed being a SAHP if he had not appreciated the risk it involves being a SAHP.

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ImperialBlether · 06/07/2015 16:12

Given it's your own money that you just don't happen to spend, I think it's justifiable. If you were taking cashback in supermarkets and putting it into a private account, that would be different.

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Tummyrumbled · 06/07/2015 16:13

I have and it is a rainy day fund. Husband knows about that I have a rainy day fund but he does not know all the details and how much is in it.

It's like what mums did years ago- money under the mattress, in the tin box, knicker drawer etc.

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WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 06/07/2015 16:16

I just don't understand why money from birthdays etc should go into a joint pot. What does he do with birthday money?

It doesn't have to go into a joint pot, she already has a personal account it could go into, this is another separate secret account.

Either you have open shared finances or you don't. Either partner hiding money from the other while allowing them to believe that everything is open is not a good idea.

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Fleurchamp · 06/07/2015 16:27

We have shared finances and our own accounts for our own spends into which a set amount is transferred each month from our joint account. Our savings are shared, again a set amount is transferred by DD each month.

I have a separate saving account, DH knows about this. I always save some money from my spends for Christmas presents/ months where I have a lot of birthdays but when I fell pregnant I upped the amount I saved (I spent less anyway as I didn't go out for drinks and meals as much!) so that during maternity leave I have some extra money for treats and also so that I do not need to take money from the joint account for DH's birthday and Christmas presents.

DH also has his own savings account although I don't think he is as organised as me. His last statement showed he had £20 in there.

If I become a SAHM I will keep the savings account with a little "comfort blanket" as, if DH turned into an arse overnight he wouldn't have to do much to turn the taps off, so to speak, and not earning my own money would leave me feeling vulnerable.

Plus, my ISA savings are in my sole name but DH is fully aware of how much is in there.

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Fleurchamp · 06/07/2015 16:29

Btw DH doesn't know how much I have tucked away - as far as he is concerned that is my money to do with as I would like as it has come from my monthly allowance. Same applies to birthday money.

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thetroubleis · 06/07/2015 16:39

I have a personal account too.

My dad fucked off and left my mum with two kids and a massive mortgage to pay, bailiffs at the door after she'd worked for him for nothing for years and she had no idea of the debt they were in.

Never in a million years did she think he'd leave her in that mess, but he did.

I'll keep saving, and when DD turns 18, hopefully I'll be able to give her half.

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SquinkiesRule · 06/07/2015 16:49

I have a savings in my name only. Money goes in and I use it for whatever I like. But it's not a secret, Dh knows it's there and doesn't care about it or know how much there is.
I had one when we lived abroad too, called it the escape fund. Dh was very pleased it was there when we moved back to UK, it covered flights, shipping household stuff, and all kinds of other expenses, with leftovers.
It the secret part that bothers me, we have no secrets, they cause trouble. If you really trust him and know he's fair and straight with money and you, then him knowing that you have a little slush fund that you put birthday money in just for you should be no problem.

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Volenflo · 06/07/2015 16:50

I don't keep secrets in my marriage.

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Lennon80 · 06/07/2015 16:54

YANBU - I think lots of women have the same. I have one just so I don't have to 'explain' why I spent money in particular shops or spent 'how much' on a coat etc. I work full time and my husband is 'careful' always wanting us to save save save. Saves arguments I think!

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Bullshitbingo · 06/07/2015 16:57

lynniep I didn't have the account before I met my dh, I set it up a year or so ago to put dribs and drabs of money into, and it's just grown from there. I think it started as a place to put some spare cash so I didn't spend it, but has turned into something else.
Reading a lot of these posts, I think a big part of me is squirrelling away 'just in case' money. I would say hand on heart I trust my husband, but maybe I don't completely...? Why else would I feel the need to have it separate?
I think I am going to talk to him about moving all finances into joint names, perhaps that would make me feel a bit more secure.

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LovelyBranches · 06/07/2015 16:59

Volenflo, that's a bit of a curt answer to the OP's predicament. Also, I'm calling fibber, everyone has secrets even if it's just tiny little details like 'i'm just popping to the loo' when really you're trying to get some time alone!

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ASorcererIsAWizardSquared · 06/07/2015 16:59

I have a rainy day fund, but its in my mums savings account. It's money from the sale of something dad left to me. It's not a secret as such, but dh isn't allowed access to it either. It's my money.

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howabout · 06/07/2015 17:05

YANBU to have a separate account. YABU to keep it secret and to think it OK for all HH savings to be in DH sole name.

Separate individual savings accounts of roughly equal amounts give you both running away funds and can be more effective for financial planning. They would also give a bit more flexibility to separate finances in the event of divorce or death. Also you should consider making payments into a pension in your name even though you are not working.

We also maintain separate CD collections after 23 years but that is possibly carrying matters too far. Grin

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Pensfriends · 06/07/2015 17:15

bingo I have the same. I do trust my husband and our marriage is great, however I know that this could change so I think it's sensible to keep some money to one side. The house is my husbands and if we split I know I'd have to find somewhere for me and the three DCs. My credit rating is poor so I'd struggle to get a loan etc too. My DH is aware of my savings account although he doesn't know or ask how much is in there. At the moment I'm using it to save up for something for him anyway. I think separate funds are sometimes sensible, especially if you are a SAHP.

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FunkyPeacock · 06/07/2015 17:16

I don't really see that you putting birthday money etc into a savings account in your own name is a 'secret'

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