AIBU to expect 14 yr old ds to piss in the loo and not all round it?!

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I cleaned that loo so well that the landing didn't stink of wee; and tonight, there is piss behind the seat round the fixings of the seat....... Am I alone? Why can't he piss into the loo, oh have MERCY on me.
(sobbing in the park drinking gin from the bottle emoticon)

OP I feel your pain.

We had a job getting DS to piss in the loo. We had just cracked it (he was age 7) when we had to move house and get the bathrooms refurbished (think avocado suites and 1970s tiles).

Our crap plumbers fitted the wrong loo seat which has to be gaffer-taped down. When I complained, they walked off the job. I've had to find a new plumber but he can't start until July.

In the meantime, the loo seat lid doesn't stay up, you can't lift up the sitting down bit of the seat and so DS is now spraying all over the seat whereas before, that would have gone down the loo as the hole would have been bigger.

He is now conditioned NOT to lift the loo seat and it's a nightmare in public.

We are going to have to do a lot of remedial work with him when we finally get a loo seat that sodding works as a sodding loo seat should work.

Thunk I also instructed them to make sure their willy's were pointing in the right direction, although the shape of the toilet lends itself well. Mr trash complained his ginormous member was brushing the porcelain. I gave him the look.

Daisy I know because the pissy flora stopped immediately, and also as the flat is tiny I can hear the toilet seat being lifted up from every room. That said, the dcs are not the type to disobey, just forget, so for the first little while every time they went, I reminded them, the odd time one particular child forgot, he was presented with bleach and a sponge, and made to clean his piss from the surrounding area. Sharp sorted it he was nine at the time.... Now they just do it, and all I have to deal with is tumbleweed from my hair brushing.

Kay teach him to sit! Most of the European countries wouldn't dream of standing. They think it's disgusting.

I remember explaining the toilet situation to my babysitter for the first time. He was a 16 year old (very lovely trustworthy) boy. He was with his mum (friend of mine) when I started on about the rules, and she interrupted me to say, 'it's all right, you needn't worry, he does that at home anyway'

It was love at first sight!

Babysitter was suitably mortified of course

Some of this explains why I came home to a bathroom covered in wee by a visiting 65 year old - and apparently his wife was supposed to have checked afterwards that he could use the plumbing facilities like a civilised adult! This guy couldn't even flush ffs. He got a telling off, and instructed to flush, and to use the mop in future. Not sure if he did but the bathroom was clean for the rest of the time they were here. I bet his wife did have to go in afterwards and check...minger. And before anyone says I was being inhospitable to guests - I'd let them use the place as a favour since their place was being refurbished.

I become a terrible person when I clean our one pissed upon bathroom.

So stop doing it then. Sheesh.

Boys are just as able as girls, men are as able as women. But why bother to modify something that's easy for you if there are no consequences, either positive or negative?
I can pretend I can't aim, don't understand how to use a washing machine or a hoover, do a boring job badly so that a patronising or exasperated female will come and take over and do it for me. All I need is the ability to outlast her patience.
If someone else is picking up all the areas I'm slack about, why would I change?
Only problem is, I then have to find a partner like my mum who will do the same. Otherwise, I'll have to change my behaviour for the reward of javing a relationship.

This exactly.

I have a ds now 18 and a dh. have never had a problem with them peeing on the bathroom floor.

My dh is one of 6 boys. He is the eldest and I spent a lot of time in their house when the younger boys were teens. Spend time in their homes and they now spend time in mind. No peeing on the bathroom floor problem ever.

That pissing on the floor is regarded as the "joys of boys" is beyond astonishing and kind of insulting to the many men including my dad, my father in law, my 5 brothers in law, my own brother in law, my nephew, and my own son who have all managed to just piss in the lav like everyone else does.

Is there really a thing where men and boys are regarded as so stupid that it is ok for them not to pee in the lav in a bathroom? God that is fairly bad, isn't it.

I got fed up cleaning up after my 13 y/o D/S and his friends.

I then typed up a large A3 sign with basic instructions on toilet useage and the correct cleaning up procedure in case of any accidents. Stuck it on wall behind loo and has worked a treat.

Had a few odd looks from visitors but mostly people just laugh and think it's a good idea.

I know someone who installed a urinal at home for this exact reason. Not sure how I feel about it.

I am stunned people think peeing on the walls, floor is normal behaviour. I didn't realize the male species were so thick that they can not aim for the toilet or afterwards wipe the toilet seat, it takes five seconds.

It is pure laziness and a sense of entitlement just because they are male. I had a workman who pissed all over my toilet seat, I could not believe it but they are pigs.

Would anyone think it was normal behaviour for a woman to leave menstrual blood on the loo seat for someone else to clean up?

Some public loos you go in you would think so BR.

I can't believe what I'm reading. How can anyone be so filthy dirty and fucking lazy? BOAK.

I have a 12 year old who seems to miss the loo constantly! Drives me potty.

These boys don't set out to piss all over the place. Lack of concentration/rushing/thinking about other stuff contributes I think. they may not even realise they have done it when they are younger.

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It happens here at times.

Usually in the morning when one has staggered to the loo half asleep. It doesn't happen because they are lazy and gross and if they notice it they always clean it. Sometimes in the mornings they don't notice it then one of them goes back to clean it when it is noticed.

I don't let them get away with it.

There is a label on the toilet seat now reminding both DS's to sit and they have been warned that any pee not in the toilet WILL be wiped up and if they don't own up to who was in the bathroom last (I'm deaf so i don't hear if anyone is in the bathroom or who) then they WILL be taking it turns. If it happens and they have already left the house, then they WILL be expected to clean the bathroom daily and taking it in turns.

DH has agreed to sit if it means we can solve this problem and both of us will speak to our respective Dads to explain the situation and ask if they too will sit... not that these 3 men are the cause of the problem but we feel it's best to have the same rule for everyone and won't make DS1 especially feel "picked on" - DS1 is not happy and his teenage argumentative self made sure I knew but as I pointed out, why is ok for me to clean up their errant pee when I didn't make the mess yet it's ok for him not to clean up after himself? Mind you, this is part of a host of other arguments off ds1 atm....

My DSS does this and I practically frog-march him up to the bathroom to clean it up. Agree with others in that you have to be consistent and make them do it every time. He's got better but every now and then he get's lazy and once again he's frog-marched upstairs!

Thing is though, even if their aim is true the force of piss hitting the water creates a fine mist of piss which actually comes above the seat anyway. So you're still sitting in piss, and it's coating the surrounding area, which in the case of our tiny bathroom, includes the toothbrushes. Bleaurgh

Which is my strongest argument for sitting (and shutting the fucking lid before you flush!)