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day off school for family day out

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ghostspirit · 25/06/2015 20:59

would you let your children have a day of school for a day out?

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IssyStark · 29/06/2015 10:25

Unless family wedding/funeral or relatives from aboard/far away only going to be in the country for that day then no.

SoupDragon · 29/06/2015 10:26

Even I had the equivalent of "inset" days when I was at school. In my memory they were known as the "5 occasional days"

Regardless, they don't come out of teaching time.

123Jump · 29/06/2015 10:32

This is something I have often wondered. Teachers have 6 weeks off over the summer, and all the usual Easter/Christmas hols. Why can't inset days be done during these holidays?

ItsNotAsPerfectAsItSeems · 29/06/2015 10:40

123Jump, do you know anyone else who would be willing to do work based training during their annual leave? Not many I know. Yes, teachers get a lot of holiday but that's part of their terms and conditions. For many, it's what makes the job attractive because not many people would to it for the salary and the shit they often get.

The fact that some other people only get 4 wks doesn't mean teachers should do training in their holidays. And as I said, they have already been taken out the holidays. Before their introduction, teachers had another weeks holiday. It was given up to facilitate the training days in return for bringing pay broadly into line with how pay was soaring in the 1980s. It didn't exactly bring it into line but it stopped it languishing 20yrs behind.

duplodon · 29/06/2015 10:50

If I had 170 days I wasn't at work, I'd be happy to do my CPD then. As it is, I mainly do it on my own time as do many, many professionals.

ItsNotAsPerfectAsItSeems · 29/06/2015 10:56

And how do you co- ordinate that with 40 other professionals across your county? And what if one person at work wants the Monday another the Tuesday and another the Friday.

And teachers do plenty of works outside of term time as it is. I know very few teachers who don't already spend another week of those holidays throughout the school year actually doing school work.

Nix01 · 29/06/2015 10:58

I'm curious OP, have you asked your children to lie about their day off?

ItsNotAsPerfectAsItSeems · 29/06/2015 11:00

But I'd be more than happy for the government to offer to buy another week of our holidays back. There is evidence that this would be very cost effective for the economy as a whole if other working parents then needed less time off to cover school holidays.

Justwhy · 29/06/2015 11:06

I am a teacher and I would. Happily. This drives me mad. Why should a school dictate what parents want to do with their own child?

I have had parents APOLOGISING to me for missing a day of school to do fun things. Parents of children who rarely see their dad as he works away so take every opportunity to have family time together.

I am under no illusion that missing a day of my teaching will destroy their education for life, or even for the rest of the week.

ItsNotAsPerfectAsItSeems · 29/06/2015 11:13

I totally agree, JustWhy. I am a good teacher Smile but I'm not so good that missing one day of my class will ruin a child's education forever more. Don't take the piss and allow your children to fall behind due to poor attendance. Don't ask me to provide your child with extra work for the day(s) they miss. But other than that, I have no issue.

ghostspirit · 29/06/2015 11:14

in the case of going on holiday for a week or 2. if it did not cost a bomb during school holidays then people are less likely to take their children in term time.

as for a day off once in a blue moon. i dont think thats the end of the world either weather its to see a realtive whos come a long way or a day out. as someone on the thread said its still a day of.

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ghostspirit · 29/06/2015 11:15

nix no defo not. cant tell kids to lie impossible i would have my 4 year old saying one thing and 8 year old saying something different

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RachelRagged · 29/06/2015 11:23

NO I am not being delibrately goady!

I put my opinion forward, which I understand forums are FOR ?!

We did not have Inset Days (FACT) .

RachelRagged · 29/06/2015 11:24

So will they be talking of Chesssington at school Today OP ?

ghostspirit · 29/06/2015 11:28

rachel they could well be. i have not asked them not to.

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LegoSuperstar · 29/06/2015 11:36

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RachelRagged · 29/06/2015 11:39

Yes, before 1998 . I am 48 . My education at school was during 70s and 80s

ItsNotAsPerfectAsItSeems · 29/06/2015 11:53

Rachel, I asked because many a goady thread has been started on MN asking why teachers cannot do Inset days during their holidays. If you didn't intend it that way then I apologise.
But as I said, they originally did come from teachers holidays. Also, last year my school got together with a few others to hear a paed nurse explain exactly what to do when a child appears to be having an anaphylactic reaction. His to spot early signs etc. I found it really beneficial even though I had no known allergic children in my class. Other insets are framed around a school's own particular need. So last year as writing scores were slightly behind the previous few years, we had someone very inspirational come in and show us some fresh and stimulating ideas to encourage reluctant writers. Most are very useful although most of us would agree that 6 hours of pouring over safeguarding documents to make sure, not that anyone is any safer, but that we jump through ofsted safeguarding hoops is a little pointless.

SoupDragon · 29/06/2015 11:57

We did not have Inset Days (FACT) .

I was at school at the same time as you. We had 5 "occasional days" which I always assumed (as a child) equated to the bank holidays.

RachelRagged · 29/06/2015 12:07

Perhaps it was occasional days then . I honestly do not remember .

That's ok ItsNotAsPerfect ... words on a screen does not get across how you would say it . Cons of forums I guess :)

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 29/06/2015 12:26

My parents referred to them as Baker Days in the 80s...

WannaShedthisFatSuit · 29/06/2015 16:38

thank you teachers on this thread

yes Flowers

ilovesooty · 29/06/2015 17:10

Inset days (originally named after the Conservative Education Secretary Kenneth Baker) were introduced in 1988.

RachelRagged · 29/06/2015 17:20

Oh .. ty ilovesooty

I was at work in 1988

keepitsimple0 · 30/06/2015 00:03

Those Parents who really do have a good reason to want to take their children out of school for a day, now worry like mad that it won't be allowed or they will get fined. All parents are now being treated the same (fines) for those irresponsible ones who just take their kids out on a whim. We wouldn't have fines in the first place if people didn't take the piss.

taking your child out to have fun with them is a good reason. as is getting a cheap holiday. my finances are none of your business unless you plan on contributing to them.

do it. have fun.

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