yes you can be overweight and in poverty

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Just saw this story on ITV twitter.com/itvnews/status/614128648585617408

Most of the comments are about her weight. Don't people understand the cheaper food is more unhealthy and you can very quickly get into poverty! Really annoyed by the response.

And i had a gym trainer tell me on no account to excersise without a sports bra as i would damage the breast tissue.

Excersise may be free. Sports bras arent. And our department store STILL doesnt stock them in my size.

i have to get mine from Bravissimo.

sits and waits for someone to tell me Poundworld do them which i have already tried and it gave me as much support as a T shirt would

This is getting silly now

Oh, come on!

Ooh thanks for that Morris Will take a look.

Superexcited i was TOLD by a trainer not to even power walk without one as i am so well endowed.

I lost ten stone so i rather think ive achieved a lot.

I really don't think we can blame obesity on the price of sports bras!!

Fwiw, I am not poor, I have an expensive gym membership... You will still find me most evenings on the sofa with a glass of wine!

SOMEONE ON JSA ISNT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A SPORTS BRA THEY JUST ARENT.

No former babe But the price of things is yet another hoop that poor people are expected to jump through.

With regards to local shops not selling decent produce. Most people (other than very rural) will have access to supermarkets/online deliveries.

Most convenience stores are quite expensive anyway.

I don't even wear a BRA to the gym; they haven't fallen off yet

Sorry Helena; I admire your weight loss but that remark, suggesting that the nation of couch potatoes is because of sports bra costs, is not one that lends itself to common sense!

Worra funnily enough, our local CoOp has just implemented a thing where their fresh produce is very cheap....salad items for under 50p...

helena losing 10 stone is a massive achievement and you should feel very proud of yourself.
Most people when out walking dint power walk though they just walk at a leisurely pace. It only takes a little while longer to cover the same distance and the calories burned walking at a leisurely pace still count.
Your breasts are obviously bigger than average too. Most people don't need a special bra to walk a couple of miles.
I have little norks usually (currently pregnant and they are quite massive) but I wouldn't run without a sports bra and I wouldn't bother with a poundland bra as I think the fact it costs a pound speaks for itself. I would happily walk a few miles with my normal bra on though.

That's good TheHouse

Oh i walk everywhere. I couldnt even tell you what our local bus fare is because ive not used it for years.

elderflower i was told that it would damage the breast tissue if i didnt wear one while excersising or while at the gym

To start with i did wear a normal bra and the trainer told me off EVERY session and kept asking me when i was going to buy a proper sports bra.

Yes but that's you. Most people are able to walk and move and exercise without damaging their breasts. I haven't worn a bra for years and they haven't fallen off!

Obviously I accept my boobs are just small enough to get away with this but most people don't have massive breasts!

Worra yes the manager told me it was trialed in Wales somewhere and sales shot through the roof (in a low income area) and so since this is also a low income area, they've added it here too...I certainly take advantage of it! Many of the parents here are lone...no car etc...don't want to spend as much as the supermarket delivery costs charge....so they go local and an't afford a lot.

elder, to be fair many overweight women have huge breasts.

It looks like Helena has a point according to this study

That's good TheHouse but to be honest, I find the Co-Op so expensive for other items, I would probably still end up spending far more on a couple of day's shopping there, than I would at Tesco for example.

Frozen veg is great if you have a freezer but damn all use if you havent.

It is back to the complexity of poverty. Many of the problems may be resolveable but each is a battle of resisting temptation and challenging social and personal status quos.

Yes you can struggle across town and back again to get to a shop which sells fruit and veg you can afford, yes you can exercise, yes you can resist the temptation of easy expensive credit, yes you can make healthy meals from scratch, yes you can resist the pleading from your children to have the same tasty processed food as their friends.

Of course it is possible but as someone posted up thread, you are always going to be struggling, always falling short. Some people do manage this. But others are ordinary fallible humans who find it too hard.

True, but I am not buying the 'sports bras are expensive therefore it is the fault of the institution that people are fat' argument!

My sports bra cost about £5 from Sainsburys.Probably wouldn't do someone with massive boobs but it's not bad. I'm sure there are other places that sell them cheaply as well.
People that are motivated to lose weight and become fit will make sacrifices and find ways to do it. If they're not motivated then they will find reasons why they can't. It's the same as anything else really.

9pages on this topic and no mention of "a girl called Jack"? She proved it could be done.

If they're not motivated then they will find reasons why they can't. It's the same as anything else really.

Yes, to this ^^

A girl called jack didn't really eat proper portions though.

GnomeDePlume are you suggesting that the people (of which there are many) who do manage those things, are somehow infallible human beings?

See that's the sort of attitude/outlook that prevents some people from getting it all together.

If they think healthy eating/exercise/weight loss is only for the infallible, why would they bother trying?

It is possible to get / stay a healthy weight when you are poor, but we should acknowledge it is MUCH more difficult.

. longterm poverty is very stressful, can drain energy and will-power; everything is a struggle.
. shortterm poverty, like being a student or young grad, when you know you'll have a good career later, is totally different
. The emotional stress often causes comfort eating, as self medication NIH study
. most of us could manage a few months of healthy eating, with our cupboards full of spices & saucepans, our heads full of recipes & confidence. But eventually we might fall into the routine of whatever is quick and easy, that everyone will eat.

I grew up very poor, so I know I'm privileged now.
Someone poor, with a family to look after, a tiring job and commute - no, their life is totally different.
I do NOT judge other people for their weight or lifestyle.