yes you can be overweight and in poverty

[Mumof4worriedfor]

Just saw this story on ITV twitter.com/itvnews/status/614128648585617408

Most of the comments are about her weight. Don't people understand the cheaper food is more unhealthy and you can very quickly get into poverty! Really annoyed by the response.

I would have had big breasts anyway They were a DD by the time i was 13 and that was before i really started to gain the weight. My paternal grandmother was the same.

And its the only part of my body where fuck all weight has come off.

Thanks for the link Worra.

are you suggesting that the people (of which there are many) who do manage those things, are somehow infallible human beings?

No of course not, that would be silly. I am just suggesting that some people find those things harder than others. Very few people struggle with nothing.

Suggesting that shopping can be delivered makes a number of assumptions:

1. the person has a bank account
2. there is money in the bank account sufficient for the shopping
3. the person has sufficient spare in their budget to be able to afford the delivery charge
4. the person has suitable storage for a week's worth of shopping
5. the person is able to meal plan without getting it wrong at all for an entire week - no wastage, no cooking fails, no food being shorter dated than expected
6. the person can afford to risk there being a problem with the execution of the delivery and not getting their cash back for a few days

You can go to Iceland, pay in cash and get free delivery if you have spent £25 or more. Contrary to belief Iceland don't just sell frozen food, they sell eggs, bread, fresh fruit and veg. Of course they sell frozen veg too as well as chicken nuggets and such like.

I am also amazed that when we are fat shaming people who are reporting on genuine problems that they are facing that they imagine their weight problems happened stones at a time

My mother is very fat

She has put on a 1/4 of a stone every year for every year since she has used a chair
That isn't actually a lot tbh, a few biscuits extra per week maybe
If you saw what she ate you'd think she secretly snarfed a lot when alone but actually she has a really normal diet
She simply has v limited mobility now and as her illness progressed and she didn't watch the odd lb here and there in the beginning and suddenly it was stones and far far too much effort to tackle

I have huge amounts of sympathy for people with weight problems as often they are a lifetime of 'a little bit of what you fancy' and not 'another deep fried mars bar?' in the making

Lets be realistic, the vast majority of people in the UK have a freezer. They're not luxury items nowadays.
I don't, I just have a fridge with a small freezer compartment, I still manage to fit a couple of bags of frozen vegetables in there alongside a few other bits.

Lets be realistic, the vast majority of people in the UK have a freezer. They're not luxury items nowadays.
I don't, I just have a fridge with a small freezer compartment, I still manage to fit a couple of bags of frozen vegetables in there alongside a few other bits.

Good point ronald. I think that's a very common pattern of weight gain. That's what happened to me, I gained nearly 5 stones over 10 years. The trouble is, you get used to it gradually. If a person woke up one morning suddenly 5 stones heavier they'd be horrified and probably extremely motivated to lose it as quickly as possible.

vvega good save! I was a bit

i have not read the thread. im to lazy. im on the fence. i notice when me and kids eat stuff like chicken nuggets/burgers/pizza chips etc we want to snack again not long after. if i go food like shepards pie. chicken rice,pasta roast dinner. chilli etc it seems to keep us full for longer so although it cost more. we are not snacking so much. so with the cost it swings in round abouts. i think so anyway i may be talking rubbish.

but i do agree it is to easy to buy crap. like 50p for pack of doughnuts it is a shame the healther things are not cheaper. cheap healthy grab food would be good. why is it the yummy things are bad for us !

However, on the flip side, for many it does come down to quantity. Why faff with quality when you can easily fill yourself up on sheer quantity of any sort of (unhealthy) food.
Not my philosophy personally, but if there's anything I've taken away from this thread is just how nuanced and complex this issue is.

Sorry - thiisis ridiculous. A packet of biscuits os cheaper than an apple. But don't eat ALL the biscuits. Eat two.

Eat half the amoung of cheap food - won't be fat and won't be as poor.

Eat potatoes. Eat cabbage. Eat veg soup. Dirt cheap. Biscuits and doughnuts - just greedy.

The logic is flawed. So biscuits are cheaper than fruit - but not cheaper than porridge. So biscuits are cheaper than fruit - but no need to eat the whole packet. A huge bowl of veg stew is cheap - but people are lazy and it is easier to blame than make the effort.

OrangeVase You are Ian Duncan Smith and I claim my £5.

orangevase, you sound exactly like my neighbour. She has a tiny pension, makes everything from scratch and sees gluttony as a sin. Walks everywhere too. Fit as a fiddle and well into her 80s.

She gets a new cookery book out of the library every week.

One if the saddest things I read earlier in the thread was the idea of a mother choosing to give her children cheap toenails and sweepings nuggets because they would burst into tears at the sight of lentil stew. Followed by posters agreeing how disgusting the idea of lentil stew is when you can buy cheap shit at Iceland. Without a shred of irony. I love dhal and lentil chilli and my kids do too.

In fact, where I come from you'd be fucking grateful indeed to see a pot of lentil stew for your dinner. It's bloody good for you and we grew up on that sort of food, without much money. Not a single one of us was obese.

Something that is £1.99 isnt going to support someone who is a 46G or a 34HH.

I dont drink any kind of Coke at all

Someone who is 46G is clinically obese so maybe if they ate less they could afford a decent bra!

Well fine if you have the will, confidence and self esteem to change your habits from eating Iceland beige carbs to cooking lentil dhal from scratch after going for a five mile walk.
Our society shows skinny celebs banging on about eating pizza and burgers! But then they eat "clean" the rest of the time they don't eat "dirty fried chicken". Well if I'm fat and poor and depressed and I don't like eating carrots then I'll identify with the "dirty" eaters thanks very much, no point in trying to compete.
Our obession with the right and wrong food is spilling over into the right and wrong people. Some societies value "fatness" as a sign of wealth and "rich" people stuff their kids with deep fried junk to show how wealthy they are. Here- affording and cooking healthy food shows you are more motivated, intelligent and "in control" and it's just not that simple.

Im a thirty FOUR DOUBLE H and like i said i got mine from Bravissimo.

Cherries i was 46G back in 2001 before i started to lose the weight.

Cactus that link is still not quite big enough in the cup size.

Anyway ive lost the weight and im happy with that but at least some of the posts on here are proof that the shaming never stops.

Jack Monroe encountered the same mentality from Portillo on BBC This Week last night "But you WERE on benefits" he said to her. I didnt watch it I didnt need to. I saw the aftermath on Twitter.