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how do you read this?

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 18:23

daughter asked if she can have friday coming of work as we arranged a family day out. it was arranged before she got the job.

his reply was.Your on router i cant change it next time give more notice.

daughter thinks that means she can go but should give more notice next time.

i think it means. no you cant go. next time give more notice and you will be able to go...

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 18:45

purple i have suggested that to her. dont know if its to late though

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BoyFromTheBigBadCity · 21/06/2015 18:48

Most places need at least 2 weeks notice, if not more. She can't go. That's a very clear message - if she try to say to her boss she interpreted that as 'yes' then they won't think much of her. Can she try and swap her shift? Rotas are worked out to make the team work well so she may not be able to.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 18:53

boy she has only been there 2 weeks might be 3. and she did try and tell them.

im not sure how long she will want to carry on working for them to be honest shes working 10-8 with a 40 min break. the other day she worked 10-9 but was told shes only being paid till 8. never gave her any contact detales. few other bits as well.

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Eigg · 21/06/2015 19:11

ghost ah I see, that's difficult. That's a shame about your day. These kinds of things are so frustrating.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 19:16

i know the other kids are going to be so upset as none of us can go now :(

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steff13 · 21/06/2015 19:19

How old is your daughter? Can't the rest of the family go without her? It sucks, but that's what happens sometimes when you work.

manicinsomniac · 21/06/2015 19:22

why can't the rest of you go? Is your daughter the driver?

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 19:24

steff shes coming up 18. i dont know if there is any point in going. its to go to chessington for the day. there would be 12year old 8 year old and 4 year old plus myself. they 8 year old likes to go on every ride. and he can only get on them if someone over 16 is with him. so its just going to cause upset. i cant go on because i have 9 week old.

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silverstreak · 21/06/2015 19:52

Didn't you post about your daughters work the other day, with CeX (or similar?!)? If so they sound like complete Dicks anyway and if she can start looking for something else asap she should just drop the job and go with you guys. Honestly, they are already stitching the poor girl up left right and centre - probably knowing full well they can get away with it did to her youth & inexperience - & it's not like she didn't try to speak to someone (albeit in a rather cackhanded manner!).... They have bluntly said EFF off we won't even try to be reasonable. Taunts! She should LTBs!!! Smile

silverstreak · 21/06/2015 19:54

Haha! Various auti-correct errors but sure you get the gist! Grin

CainInThePunting · 21/06/2015 20:05

If it zero hour contract they will have other people to do the shift, that's the point of bastard zero hour contracts. Manager just can't be arsed sorting it.
She should reply saying she quits and go on the family trip. I bet she would earn less than you would lose if you cancel your day.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 20:13

yes silver maybe i should have just added to that thread. but anyway yeah seems theres not even going to be any give and take. i think she wants to work there because its a bit of money for her but shes starting to realise some things are not right. whats LTB mean. oh and yes shes applying for other jobs

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 20:19

cain i have no idea how it all works. part of me thinks go for the day out they are arsholes anyway. another thinks its stupid to throw a job away for a day out...but also not sure she would loose her job

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EeyoresTail · 21/06/2015 20:39

They are treating her badly if she's not being given the breaks she is entitled to by law!
It's a zero hour contract so she can turn down the shift.
Go out and have fun.

AdeleDazeem · 21/06/2015 20:39

I can't change it = no day off
IMO

silverstreak · 21/06/2015 20:45

LTB = leave the bastards! Grin it's a popular cry on MN, more usually on relationship threads but I thought it was quite appropriate here too....! Well if she did try to tell them at the start/interview stage, and has tried to settle it since, if i was her I would be inclined to go down the "very sorry boss but I'm afraid I can't work that day, I have a prior arrangement, it isn't possible to back out now" & go from there. But then I absolutely detest bullying workplaces, plus I'm waaaay older than your daughter. She shouldn't let them bully her, Op, family days out at this time/ages are so precious (not to mention you've already shelled out for everything!) - she can't give it up for some crappy job shell barely remember in 6months!

Pipbin · 21/06/2015 20:49

Why did she not mention that she had this holiday booked before she took the job, it's fairly standard to ask that when offering someone a job?
The employers sound like they are being a bit dickish but she has only just taken this job and asking for days off at no notice isn't going to win her any friends.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 20:59

eeyores they could sack her though? but then again they could anyway. and yeah really feel like just going.

haha silver yes seems right here to. ...and yes although it is just a day out in chessington it does feel bit precious. been bit of a difficult couple of years on and of. on my own with 5 kids. had some difficult times with daughter. would just be nice to have a day out where everyone is happy and theres no aguing bla bla bla... and maybe now is the time to take risks she does not have any responability as such.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 21:12

pipbin its her first job it would not have even entered her head. they did not even give any contact detales. daughter had to chase round for them. then she was given wrong detales so did not get a reply. so that wasted some days as well.

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susiedaisy · 21/06/2015 21:16

I read it as she can't go she's included in the staffing rota and it's too late to change it, when she went for her interview they should of asked if she had any upcoming holidays and they then factor these in, she just needs to remember next time to write down any planned holidays and let them know. It's a huge learning curve when your young and just getting your first job..

TiredButFine · 21/06/2015 21:40

I thought zero hours meant that they don't have to offer hours, and you don't have to work them.

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 21:45

susie i dont know if they asked about holidays or not. but if they used the words holiday. daughter would have been thinking spaim/butlins. not a day of for a day trip. so she would have answered no :(

tired it might do i have no idea :)

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ghostspirit · 21/06/2015 22:17

just spoke to daughter.she said they never asked about holidays

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BoyFromTheBigBadCity · 22/06/2015 01:16

The may not have asked but she should have said. I understand that it's her first job, but she isn't stupid - 'sorry, boss, this is a day I can't work'. I'm not much older than your dd, but in the shitty zero hours jobs i've worked I was regularly screwed over by people who couldn't understand that they needed to give notice. I haven't read any thread about other problems with the company so I understand this may have a larger back story, but dd can't just not go - everyone else she works with also has a life. Sorry op, your day sounds lovely.

Hissy · 22/06/2015 07:42

Get her to swap with someone, or tell her to leave the job. Zero hours? He'd piss her about if it suited him, and he'd fire her in a heartbeat.

Whoever invented this zero hours crap needs shooting.