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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think if you home educate a child, you (the parent) are the educater?

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greytartan · 12/06/2015 22:24

I have absolutely no issues with Home Ed and in fact see it largely as a positive.

What I am upset about is the fact a student of mine has been withdrawn from the school I teach at to be educated at home. As indicated above, I am supportive of this if the parents feel it is right.

However, I apparently have to set her work, and mark it,

Surely that's not right? As if she is educated at home then - well, as the name suggests!

Or AIBU?

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SallyMcgally · 13/06/2015 12:47

I think the OP's had a hard time as well. There are clearly many of us parents in similar positions, so I can't see how the student is identifiable. And it is a big ask from either management or the parents. Nobody likes a big ask without being given reasonable information.

redgoat · 13/06/2015 12:51

I think you need to be very careful with regards to your posting here as you could well be outed and it isn't very professional of you. Even posting on TES would be risky but at least there you'd be among less of a mix of readers.

TBH, if you haven't been able to sort this out at school so far then you need union advice. I'm inclined to think you should not be providing work for this child as you cannot be accountable for any progress and are not actually teaching them. It is also a lot of extra work for you and I suspect not in your remit to do so.

As I said, you need union advice.

BertieBotts · 13/06/2015 12:51

I would imagine this is a huge amount of extra work for OP. I don't think it's unreasonable to object to it. I assume there is no extra payment.

Can't the parents hire a tutor if they don't feel able to teach her themselves?

Goldmandra · 13/06/2015 12:56

Can't the parents hire a tutor if they don't feel able to teach her themselves?

The school is responsible for her education. Perhaps they should hire the tutor.

5madthings · 13/06/2015 12:59

Why should the parents hire a tutor, for whatever reason this child is legally still on the school roll and the op is being asked to provide work. The school, local authority etc should be providing a tutor perhaps, but it's a pita to get one. It's not the patents responsibility to pay. And perhaps they can't afford it.

The issue is with the school and management not supporting the op. The local authority if it's an la school have a duty to this child.

FelineLou · 13/06/2015 13:05

You need to check with your union rep to see if this is right. Sometimes a MH issue requires this sort of help for a while.

BertieBotts · 13/06/2015 13:16

Ah okay, sorry I missed that part. Then yes perhaps the school/LA should be providing a tutor. I just don't think it's fair to expect OP to do this.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 13/06/2015 14:14

Well it sounds difficult but the real issue is about the management of the school, not the child. Or the child's parents.

If the school cannot even communicate to its teachers in such a basic way, I wonder how the parents of this presumably vulnerable (in some way) child are faring? Badly I would think.

I cannot believe that there's any back story to this that makes it acceptable for the school to be behaving in this way. As such it's probably a horrible place to work. The tone is the thread is rather odd and on the surface it appears the op isn't doinv herself any favours, but again I'm making a leap of faith to assume the OP is suffering in this situation.

I guess the most obvious question would be, are you trying to get another job? Or can you get supply work or something to remove yourself from an awful working environment? That would seem to be the priority

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Icimoi · 13/06/2015 15:10

The statutory requirement is set out in section 19 Education Act 1996:

Each local education authority shall make arrangements for the provision of suitable education at school or otherwise than at school for those children of compulsory school age who, by reason of illness, exclusion from school or otherwise, may not for any period receive suitable education unless such arrangements are made for them.

The Act elsewhere sets out the entitlement to full time education and LA duties to make arrangements to ensure that that is given. There is further statutory guidance here. It states that local authorities must

arrange suitable full-time education (or as much education as the child’s health condition allows) for children of compulsory school age who, because of illness, would otherwise not receive suitable education.

It further requires that the education arranged should be of good quality.

OP, you really need to start asking questions about why this child is not getting proper home tuition. They are using you to save LA money.

pinksquash13 · 13/06/2015 15:19

Which subject do you teach? I agree it's a complete pain to do what you're currently doing and that the girl will likely make minimum progress in this situation. I'd send out a lot of exam tasks/text books that explain themselves. I would also mark work and expect it to be corrected/edited multiple times if necessary. If she is getting through the work quickly she may need to do it to a better quality.

opalfire · 13/06/2015 15:37

OP I really don't think Yabu. My sisters are teachers and bring home work every night and weekend for their normal work commitments. This is adding even more and not just for the short term. Really the school are being unreasonable. I'm assuming it's not feasible to send home whatever work has been set for the rest of the class?

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greytartan · 13/06/2015 15:57

I have been doing that but alone it isn't sufficient - it needs context which adds to the time as well as tracking down the person responsible for delivering it

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Yarp · 13/06/2015 16:06

This is a ridiculous situation, but I am wondering about the hoplessness that's coming over on here. Are you OK OP? You don't seem to have been able to be at all proactive.

greytartan · 13/06/2015 16:20

I am not completely sure what you mean sorry. Who is hopeless?

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Pico2 · 13/06/2015 16:49

Various posts have suggested that the LA is responsible for providing tuition. Is this still the case for academy schools or only for LA schools?

OP - are the emails specifically to you or to all of the teachers of this pupil? They may be so frequent because other teachers are not diligently providing work each time.

This strikes me as a particularly inadequate form of education. It's like setting cover work but for a group you've never met. If any school considers it adequate then they might as well give up having teachers and outsource setting work to a foreign call centre type operation.

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