To think if you home educate a child, you (the parent) are the educater?

[greytartan]

I have absolutely no issues with Home Ed and in fact see it largely as a positive.

What I am upset about is the fact a student of mine has been withdrawn from the school I teach at to be educated at home. As indicated above, I am supportive of this if the parents feel it is right.

However, I apparently have to set her work, and mark it,

Surely that's not right? As if she is educated at home then - well, as the name suggests!

Or AIBU?

A child is home educated when the parent withdraws them from school and requests they are off rolled from the school. At this point the parents take full responsibility for education. The school is no longer involved. The only way that a school would provide work is if a child wasn't in due to exclusion beyond a certain time or unable to attend school because of medical needs and seen by hospital and home tuition service. You are no longer responsible for the child's education in anyway if they are off roll that's the legal position.

It all hinges on whether or not she's on roll at your school- and it certainly sounds like she is. Whilst she is on roll, the school has a responsibility for her education. Setting and marking work is one (ineffective IMO) way in which they can fulfil this responsibility- others would be to make a referral to the medical/home tuition service if there is one or to apply for funding to send a TA or agency tutor to work with her at home.

You need to ask your line manager when/how frequently the situation is being reviewed. This should be at least half termly I would think.

I wont go into details, but unfortunately discussing it with management isn't an option.

Girl maybe it would be best if you didn't post any more on here then, as I'm afraid I am genuinely asking advise and am finding some of it helpful, so I'm not going to stop because you don't approve of the thread.

Of course, you could report it if you genuinely feel it's a privacy issue,

I'll assume you aren't an English teacher!

At my school DC who are educated temporarily at the PRU are still sent work by their teachers. This is to ensure that they are still following the same syllabus at the same time as their classmates, so when they return they haven't fallen behind.

There may be many reasons why this child can't be taught at school. If you haven't met her by June, it sounds like she may have been out of formal education for some time.

Yes, very possible, although I must say I don't know where and how the subject comes into it.

It is possible to advise and suggest without diminishing and insulting.

I do think it is not your responsibility to provide distance lessons for one child over a long period of time, unless the school is prepared to offer you more planning time. I've had to prepare the odd one off lesson for students who have been internally excluded, and it is time consuming. It's not just a case of 'go to page... Do exercise...)! You have to give explanations, think about what difficulties they might encounter and preempt them, etc. Teachers have enough to do as it is!

You're not clear on the details by your own admission. It sounds temporary, not like home ed. or flexi-school (though who knows as we're not in possession of full facts). Agree, perhaps illness or some other factor involved, hence arrangement with school.

Why is it 'a bit demanding' to provide some work for one extra pupil and then mark it?

You asked if you were being unreasonable!! I think you are. Or did you only want people to answer if they thought you were being reasonable??

You can't post on a public forum but then tell people not to post if you don't like their answer.

That's the difficulty, missy.

windy, she hasn't been in since September and I have been told she's being home educated and to provide work - they are the details I have. It may well be illness, and I am hugely sympathetic to the difficulties this or any other reason may cause, but the problem is I can't just send home the work the rest of the class are doing as out of context it makes little to no sense. Therefore, it is providing an alternative curriculum if you like and it's actually very difficult to gauge the appropriate level so to speak as I haven't met the student yet, and it seems unlikely that I will.

Further to what somebody else was saying, it sounds possible she's still on the school roll, therefore not home educated.

Girl I have happily conceded I may be unreasonable as to whether or not to set the work, but I'd rather not discuss what a bad person I am for asking in the first place, if you don't mind terribly :)

Since october (providing work!)

It is tricky.

my guess would be her status is not officially 'EHE' yet - so she's still technically OSR and needs work sent home

The LEA will be assessing the situation - parents may have requested a move to another school?

once her status is established she will no longer be your schools responsibility

although the since oct thing is odd

DC who are educated temporarily at the PRU are still sent work by their teachers. This is to ensure that they are still following the same syllabus at the same time as their classmates, so when they return they haven't fallen behind.

That sounds like a possibily quite reasonable explanation. Someone is euphemising because home ed sounds so much nicer than being educated whilst being detained in the justice system in some way.

The pupil will still be on roll. At secondary this happens a lot - pupils who cannot/will not come to school.

I photocopy schemes of work and resources and send them. Nothing extra as the person doing the educating can sort out the rest!

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Home Education=deregged from school, no further contact with school, parent or carer directs education (following NC, going the autonomous route, or something in between)

what you are describing is not HE. This child evidently can't attend school and needs to be kept in the loop until such time as they can

I don't really understand what you hope to find out posting here?

a PRU isn't a prison grin] and ours has it's own teachers (I work in one)

Piece is right - the pupil is still on school role - otherwise your school would have no responsibility for her what so ever

she may be experiencing mental heath issues, school phobic or just be ill or refusing

she's not Elective Home Educated

Something doesn't add up though op. You've been setting her work since October and yet you can't gauge the appropriate level of work?

I'm off to bed as this is complete nonsense. I've worked in education for most of my career and nobody I've ever worked with would behave as unprofessionally as you are. If you genuinely wanted constructive advice there are several teaching websites that have forums. Posting in AIBU makes it appear like you have other motives.

Yes, if you post on the home ed board you will see that the parents are the DC's educator for a child who has been de-regged. The situation you are involved with does not sound like voluntary home education. Much more likely there's some physical or mental health issue.