To have reported the shouty self-appointed piano police to the actual police?

[PeppermintCrayon]

I am half-expecting to be told I'm being U for posting a thread of the "please validate this thing I already did!" variety...

Recently I was at St Pancras Station. There are several pianos for public use there. They're a bit knackered; one of them has a few keys that don't work.

Some kids were playing one of the pianos, about eight or nine maybe. They were having a fun trying to play different tunes. They were banging the keys quite hard. A man of maybe 55, 60, suddenly appeared and started yelling: "WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING, YOU NEVER BANG A PIANO."

I went over and said I didn't think yelling at children was very nice and that these kids probably didn't have a piano at home and did he want to put them off music? He started huffing and puffing about how the pianos had to be tuned because of people messing about. I said perhaps he could have said: "Look, this is how you play a piano," and explained nicely instead of yelling. He then started yelling at me.

He then went back to sitting at a nearby cafe table glowering at anyone who went near the pianos, so I went and found a transport policeman and told him this man had been shouting at children for playing the piano and he went to have a word.

I don't think I was being U, but...

this is a silly thread. i can only think the people who are opposed to musical instruments being accessible to all had an education where they had music lessons and it's a privilege to have that now. (more's the pity hence the crap popular music we churn out now).

Ohhh, I must have misunderstood this thread all the way though.

Is it about people having a problem with musical instruments being accessible to all?

In that case I take back everything I've said (apart from calling you on your ageist comment of course).

But I was under the impression this thread was about a couple of kids mistreating a musical instrument...not merely having access to it?

And for your info, I live in one of London's most deprived boroughs. My 16yr old DS plays the violin and guitar because lessons were provided free of charge, as part of a government initiative to allow kids in poor areas access to musical instruments and lessons.

They were however, taught to respect other people's property. Particularly by the age or 8 and 9 years old...

Answer Worra 's question.

this thread is a bit silly imo

the more kids have access to musical instruments the better, i can't understand how anyone would have a problem with that..

feck off worra are you out to just dissect every mn post that you find offensive to you politically correct tones

The word is FUCK and that's two people you've told to 'feck off' now, simply because they disagree with you.

No-one's forcing you to take part in this debate you know?

No one said they had a problem with accessible musical instruments.

be specific sooty

It's just unnecessary and unpleasant to the old fellow's eyes. He was probably brought up to respect things. Things didn't always used to be so disposable.

Musical instruments, however old, are a thing of creativity and beauty.

Be specific about what?

i prefer feck worra

sooty quote: Do you fancy answering the question Worra asked?

Fuck me. Silly isn't even the word for it.

If you have no argument, just pretend the thread is about people not wanting kids to have free and easy access to musical instruments.

Meanwhile to everyone else on this thread, it's about 2 kids bashing a piano and some bloke shouting at them.

But don't let facts get in the way of your tangent...

He shouldn't have shouted at them especially not in an aggressive manner. He could have explained not to hit the keys so hard and even have just shown them how to play. Would have got his point across.

Casual disabilism? Casual racism?

You ok with those op?? That's the question being asked....

She asked if you were ok with casual racism, sexism or disabilism.

Happy to refresh your memory.

Not op. southeast

don't care if im sounding silly private if i did i would have given up mn years ago

so do you not post if you sound 'silly' private then what's the point of being on mn??

If the police agreed with you they're just as ridiculous and precious as you are OP.

If the man had shouted at my kids for abusing someone else's property I'd not ask the police to speak to him. I'd wait til he'd finished and then I'd give them a bollocking too.

He shouldn't have shouted, but I can feel this man's frustration and sadness

I'm only 45 and I'm sad at kids behaviour these days. I'm even sadder at the parents reaction to the behaviour.

What was the parents reaction in this case? Where were they? In the pub/bar probably...

If their parents had been there one would have hoped they would have ensured they didn't bang on the piano but I suppose there's no guarantee of that.

I let my sister into my house once and her DD came straight over to the laptop where my DS was using a reading program and thumped the keys with her fists, for no other reason than to bash and break them.

DS has autism and was very upset. My niece is an entire year older and NT.

Perhaps some of the people objecting would like to put their iPads / Macs in the firing line for this abuse.

I am a pianist, I love the piano empathy on this thread . I'm sure the public pianos can withstand a little bashing about.

Adults really should not go about screeching at kids for doing precisely what they are invited to do at St Pancras.

yanbu.

How has this thread turned into people being accused of denying children access to musical instruments?

Firstly we know zero about the children involved and their situation.

AND no one is denying them the opportunity to use it.

It's disrespectful to cause any damage to property regardless of what or how old it is.