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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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To think most people are Center Left Or Right in Politics.

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:10

I would say that around 90% of people are either centre left or right.

I would say this is the biggest problem in politics today.

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:12

Because their is little choice between the main parties and even SNP and the Greens are relatively centre.

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:15

Anyone

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MaidOfStars · 27/05/2015 11:19

Well, yes.

PtolemysNeedle · 27/05/2015 11:20

I think most people are quite centre, but I don't think that's because of the parties. I think the parties have become that way in response to most people wanting a good balance between the right and the left.

HirplesWithHaggis · 27/05/2015 11:22

I'd agree that most people probably are fairly centrist, with leanings in one direction or the other, but the two main parties are both right-leaning and I see that as more of a problem. In Scotland we also have the new coalition of the left, so that'll present a bit more variety in 2016.

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:23

Ptolemeys I agree but leaves people like me without a voice in a significant party.

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DinosaursRoar · 27/05/2015 11:23

why is this a problem? Surely "we're all pretty much agreed on the fundementials and just really arguing about the tinkering at the edges" is better than the extremes? The last century tried various extremes, generally people don't like them in this country.

There are parties out there that do offer batshit crazy extreme left and right politics, but the majority of the British public aren't interested.

MaidOfStars · 27/05/2015 11:23

I would say this is the biggest problem in politics today
I think it's a reflection of a system that has undergone fine tuning.

I'd rather be scrapping about whether winter fuel allowance should be means-tested than fighting for the abolition of capital punishment/right to access abortion/decriminalisation of gay people/etc.

Do you want a revolution?

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:24

I suppose people that share my views are in such a tiny minority that I will never have a voice in mainstream politics.

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:26

Yes I do want a revolution like ( I'm of the same politics of Russell brand).

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DinosaursRoar · 27/05/2015 11:28

Sassy - x posted with you. If you have minority views, then you won't be represented by a major party if most people don't agree with you.

There are smaller parties, they could get larger if most people agreed with your politics. Perhaps it's worth just accepting that most people don't agree with you so your view point will never be the one that governs the UK unless a dictatorship imposes a government on the UK that the citizens wouldn't chose.

MaidOfStars · 27/05/2015 11:28

What kind of views do you want represented?

I guess you would argue for a PR voting system? Do you feel that would give you a voice?

VelvetRose · 27/05/2015 11:29

Can you explain to me what his general politics is please Sassy? I like RB but got a bit confused by some of his political rants of late.

MaidOfStars · 27/05/2015 11:30

Russell Brand came out for Labour in the end? Is it his 'politics' or his criticism of the system that you support (I'm not actually sure what his 'politics' are)?

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:35

I want a revolution in which Britain becomes a socialist republic ( like scandanavian nations.

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VelvetRose · 27/05/2015 11:36

Didn't he advise young people not to vote and then, when it was too late to register told them to vote labour?

Gottagetmoving · 27/05/2015 11:41

I used to be centre left but I think I am more Left than anything now since the right wing have become more bloody Right wing with their treatment of the vulnerable people in this society and their greed for the few.

VelvetRose · 27/05/2015 11:44

Well I will say that there seems much to be admired about Scandinavia. Great education, much more gender equality in terms of representation in parliament and very generous maternity rights. I've never lived there though so can't vouch for it personally!

1Morewineplease · 27/05/2015 11:47

I'm a all for a little bit more socialism as I feel that in this day and age we have far more groups of people feeling marginalised than ever before but I'm not so sure about the "Republic" bit Sassy... Do you mean as in no monarchy?

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SassyMother · 27/05/2015 11:50

No monarchy is what I mean.

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MaidOfStars · 27/05/2015 11:54

We have the same system (constitutional monarchy) as Notway/Sweden/Denmark (not sure about Finland).

DinosaursRoar · 27/05/2015 11:56

Well, there is a socialist party in the UK. They just don't have many people agreeing with them.

I don't like socialism as a political theory, I don't like trying to make outcomes equal for all people, I do believe in making opportunities equal, but equality of outcomes doesn't appeal at all to me, nor will it to be bulk of the UK, it's been tried, most people don't agree.

Most people do agree with a more central view of creating equal opportunities, how that is managed and how much/which advantages should be removed is the niggles that different parties have different policies on, but generally, most parties who are successful are the ones offering people what they want.

PtolemysNeedle · 27/05/2015 12:02

So what you're basically saying is that democracy is the problem?

DinosaursRoar · 27/05/2015 12:03

Maid - was about to say that! Swedish people I've met are terrible proud of their Royals. (which do seem a far more sensible lot than ours)

Finland doesn't have a Monarchy (they used to come under the Russian one), but they have actually had serious consideration for creating one/reinstating one.

PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 27/05/2015 12:04

What will having no monarchy do for me though?

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