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To hate it when people miss out the word 'to'

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fiveacres · 26/05/2015 07:08

DS has picked it up.

'Hey, Mum, I want to go Florida!'
'you want to go TO Florida!'
'Yeah, that's what I said. I want to go Florida and -'

Argh.

I noticed this when I was teaching and it drove me crazy then - 'Can I go toilet?'

Grrrrrrr.

So am I being ridiculously anal or does anyone else loathe this? I also can't stand 'etc etc' which seems to be another thing DS is bringing home from school.

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TisILeclerc · 26/05/2015 09:33

It is very prevalent in Stoke on trent.

RabbitsarenotHares · 26/05/2015 09:33

Rivercam - 'little' is fine as a noun, and, according to the OED, the phrase 'every little helps' dates from at least 1742.

ItsRainingInBaltimore · 26/05/2015 09:46

I hate it too. My nephew does this and it makes him sounds as thick as mince. Also as well as missing out the 'to' everywhere is often either 'up' or 'down.'

So it's either 'I'm going London' or 'I'm going up London' or 'I'm going down London'. But never I am going to London.

Alice my son's English teacher does that! She told me my son 'needs pushed' before his exams! Shock

She's a really good teacher and I'm sure she has perfectly good grammar when she stops to think about it, but it's just a colloquial habit from her local area in the North East that she has never dropped. I think it sounds completely daft.

Were I grew up people would say things like 'this is mine, that's yorn.' Confused Even as a child I found it ridiculous and never did it myself. But then my parents never spoke like that either so it just never rubbed off on me.

Another one that I was open mouthed at was a Lancashire woman saying 'tret'.

As in 'he tret me me right nice.' Not 'He treated me very nicely.' Confused

ItsRainingInBaltimore · 26/05/2015 09:47

where not were, just before some smart arse points that out.

ItsRainingInBaltimore · 26/05/2015 09:51

Can I get a toilet?

I've never heard that but I've heard plenty of people say 'Can I go - a - toilet?' or more accurately can I go - a - torlit as it would be pronounced where I'm from. Grin

Debs75 · 26/05/2015 09:51

I'm a Yorkshire lass so hardly ever say to.
Also I'm learning sign language and there are no signs for a lot of these connective words so in ops case 'i want to go to Florida' would be 'want go florida'
Asking someone's name is just 'name what?'
It's the way to go, getting rid of the little words gets your point across much easierGrin

gobbin · 26/05/2015 09:54

Can you explain "where are my car keys to"? What does the to signify

Ah yes, the ability of Welsh valleys people to ADD 'to' where it's NOT needed lol.

"I'm going to Pontrhydfendigaid.". "Oh yeah? Where is that to?"

NorahDentressangle · 26/05/2015 09:55

Is it from texting - quicker to miss the word out.

tret - Wiktionary
Usage notes[edit]

In the dialects found in Yorkshire and North East England, the past tense and past participle form tret (IPA(key): /t??t/) is sometimes encountered.

Etymology
From Middle English treten, from Anglo-Norman treter, Old French tretier

Some of these old local words were there first!

soapboxqueen · 26/05/2015 10:00

Norah I think you'll find most of them have been around for centuries if not millennia.

My mum used to correct people if they said 'I learn you to ride a bike' rather than teach which is common around these parts. Until she found out that 'larn' was from the Norse to 'teach'. She doesn't do it anymore Grin

Charley50 · 26/05/2015 10:41

I say it and it annoys me that I say it!! I'm a mid-forties year old from London. I'm goin' shop. I'm goin' cinema. I'm quite well spoken apart from that... Oh and I sometimes say f instead of th.. Somefing.

Feminine · 26/05/2015 10:50

Dorset here.
We have the additional "to" here.
I don't mind.
My youngest child, has picked up quite a strong Dorset accent now, as her teacher has one.
Previously, she had an American one.
I know that some of these examples are not grammatically correct - but does it really matter?
I don't believe so.

fiveacres · 26/05/2015 11:06

If I am honest, to me it does - and I think knowing the rules at least is important for children.

If they choose to break them in appropriate settings and contexts that's fine. But the limits of your language are the limits of your world.

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soapboxqueen · 26/05/2015 11:14

Five unless the language used is incomprehensible using a local dialect doesn't inhibit anything.

Though it does highlight social prejudice.

ElviraCondomine · 26/05/2015 11:16

It's very much part of the North Staffs dialect.

e.g. I'm going town, do some shopping.
I'm going bed.
I'm going toilet.

The only exception is Hanley. You go up Hanley, duck.

TheChandler · 26/05/2015 11:29

Add "I'm excited for this"

Or the spreading misuse of gotten - if you must use it, it should be as a past participle at the end of a sentence surely?

KingscoteStaff · 26/05/2015 11:32

Overheard outside our school...

'You going bus?'

'Nah, I'm going Nandos.'

howabout · 26/05/2015 11:34

Better or worse than splitting infinitives?

MissDemelzaCarne · 26/05/2015 11:36

I think it's a 'youth thing' as DD has only recently started doing it! DS doesn't.
DD tasked me yesterday is she could 'go town' today. I just pretend not to understand until she speaks properly, it's very annoying.

KingscoteStaff · 26/05/2015 11:36

Oh, and Charley50, I have one lovely boy in my class who is still spelling it somefink...

I have added it to my list of 'Things I still have to fix before the end of term'.

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Charley50 · 26/05/2015 11:47

Grin Kingscote, my DS even reversed it the other way round when he was learning to write..e.g. He would write thrend instead of friend.. I think my poor pronunciation had him completely conthused!

Klayden · 26/05/2015 11:52

When my children speak like this, I get cross. It's just lazy to drop words and then the sentence just doesn't sound right at all.

soapboxqueen · 26/05/2015 11:53

Sovery up these parts we say 'like' a lot. Got nowt to do with tele or Americans.

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