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Irish bashing

146 replies

ASAS · 25/05/2015 00:11

Is it just me or have there been an unusual number of threads passive aggressively bashing our Irish sisters lately?

I'm not Irish so not particularly sensitive, but just seems to have come up out of nowhere. Prior to this most Irish threads were about the price of tinned tomatoes in euros and staff booking St Patrick's Day in NYC without authorization.

Peace and love, remember, peace and love.

OP posts:
whitecandles · 25/05/2015 00:44

On Ireland, crusty.

Where are you from?

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:45

Thats why this is weird.

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:46

My mother was Irish, Im born here.

diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2015 00:47

Here? In Belfast? Wink

whitecandles · 25/05/2015 00:47

What is 'here'? Ireland?

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:47

My mother was from dublin.

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:48

I have two brothers that were born in Newtonards too... Long story Grin

JoanHickson · 25/05/2015 00:48

As a former resident of Ireland, and Irish citizen born abroad, I do feel there has been a lot of Irish bashing.

JustAScreenName · 25/05/2015 00:48

I'm so glad that crusts came along and perfectly demonstrated the sneering anti-Irish attitude that some posters have displayed in response to seeing our country do something positive.

Otherwise this could have been a thread full of "nope, no Irish bashing here", and "you're imagining it, OP" and "I chose this weekend at random to opine about the IRA and/or women from Ireland having to 'get the boat', nothing at all to do with pissing on the chips of a neighbouring country I enjoy looking down on." Maybe in not so many words Grin .

Thank you, OP, for noticing the awful tone the last couple of days, even though it doesn't affect you personally Flowers. And thank you too, crusts, for making plain your blatant disdain and making it impossible for everyone else to pretend no such disdain exists on here. No flowers for you though. Wink .

diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2015 00:49

You said "I'm born here."

here for you is there for me.

pandarific · 25/05/2015 00:49

I think there's also a bit of a misunderstanding about the strength of Catholic feeling in Ireland too - it's mostly the older generation and the right wing who remain practicing Catholics.

A lot of people will vote for reproductive rights when the referendum comes, particularly the younger generation, and personally I think it will pass. The pain is getting to the referendum, because of the constitution issue I mentioned up above, and also because it is seen as a political poisoned chalice, and most politicians avoid taking any position on the issue - but for a few wonderful few, who will eventually succeed.

FastWindow · 25/05/2015 00:51

To answer the op and to bring the brakes on the bunfight, no, I have not noticed any Irish bashing. Actually ever. Catholic bashing, sure. But that's not really a religious thing, that's just deep seated misogyny.

Dons tin hat.

JoanHickson · 25/05/2015 00:52

We do know "here" isn't Dublin.Wink

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:52

I just said it was weird that all of a sudden such a catholic society has agreed to same sex marriage yet have skirted over the issue of abortion? weird.

JoanHickson · 25/05/2015 00:53

Hey, misogyny isn't a Catholic issue it's a religion in general issue.

ASAS · 25/05/2015 00:54

So basically, in the spirit of equality, are we all happy to become the women of mn supporting the women of Ireland who are working so hard and doing as much as they can? You know, as opposed to skipping along with the whole divide and conquer thing.

Anyway, it's late, thanks for reading so far.

OP posts:
crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:54

I love being part Irish and Im proud of the fact I am. Im just a bit meh about the weird liberal jump. It doesnt make sense.

diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2015 00:55

'such a Catholic society'
'all of a sudden'

these are the things you should read up on, and about which you are spectacularly ill-informed.

JoanHickson · 25/05/2015 00:56

crustsaway What part is "here" though?

honeycrest · 25/05/2015 00:57

Yes OP I have also noticed it, I don't know how anyone could say they haven't tbh. It hasn't exactly been subtle.

Two threads that spring to mind are the IRA one and the one about irish women needing to be rescued. Full of offensive shite about how backwards ireland is. The irony being that abortion is not even available in all the UK. Maybe they should deal with that before sticking their noses in!

diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2015 00:58

If you think it looks like a weird liberal jump, I'd have to assume, despite being so proud to be part Irish , you haven't spent much time there.

crustsaway · 25/05/2015 00:58

This is not a womens rights victory.

diddlediddledumpling · 25/05/2015 00:59

It's a victory for equality.

whitecandles · 25/05/2015 00:59

We get it crust.

You think it's weird.

And your mam is Irish, so you
can say what you like.

Sigh.

FastWindow · 25/05/2015 00:59

joan yes about the misogyny but particularly (in contrast to protestants) prevalent in catholicism) a real second class attitude to women. In that the prods now have quite a few female clergy. Only that.

Don't weigh me in on abortion. Ill get banned Grin