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to think the budget of 13bn cuts maybe some good news

81 replies

agentEgypt · 21/05/2015 08:16

Some changes to housing benefit to stop it pushing up all rents would be good.

Also I'd like to see some kind of land tax to replace council tax. Then all the overseas people that buy properties to leave empty would be hit. Also this could hit buy to letters and remove some of the unfair tax breaks that encourage it.

What would you like to see?

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VoyageOfDad · 21/05/2015 08:20

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prorsum · 21/05/2015 08:33

Housing benefit does not push rents up, lack of social housing does.

BishopBrennansArse · 21/05/2015 08:36

Fewer disabled people, carers and working families bearing the brunt of bankers' mistakes and corporations failing to pay tax.

MrsNextDoor · 21/05/2015 08:38

How does housing benefit push up rents? Confused It's the lack of housing that does that.

TheFairyCaravan · 21/05/2015 08:41

Are you serious? Hmm

I wouldn't like to see the cuts, I would like to see them collect the taxes owed tbh! How is it "good news" that carers are going to lose out, kids are going to starve and disabled people are going to lose their benefits.

I'm sick of Tory Britain and we're only 2 weeks in!

bobbywash · 21/05/2015 09:01

Yes the 13bn in cuts could be good news, they could cut MP's pension entitlement for a start and how easily they qualify for it (2 terms I believe). Then they could cut the 2nd home allowance that MP's get. That would be a start.

Of course there are savings to be made, and layers of management in various areas are a good start. I would like to see less civilians and more Police, same with the NHS less admin and more front line staff. It'll never happen though, they will target the easiest group that makes the best soundbites, so Housing Benefit in London, Child Benefits, and Benefits generally with an overall cap.

I fail to see how moving people into poverty can ever be seen as positive.

ilovesooty · 21/05/2015 09:04

Oh yes, OP. For all the disadvantaged and those of poverty I'm sure the proposed cuts are spiffing news. Absolutely spiffing. Hmm

ilovesooty · 21/05/2015 09:05

In poverty, sorry. Posts like this make me angry.

Sirzy · 21/05/2015 09:06

It seems that all proposals so far are ones to hurt those who really need it. The cuts could be made elsewhere whereby people who are already in need wouldn't be hurt, but then that may hurt to mps and we couldn't have that!

Tanith · 21/05/2015 09:09

Land tax? Isn't that the same as the old rates system that Margaret Thatcher's government replaced with first the poll tax, then the council tax, because they said the rate system was unfair?

Hardly progress if so!

agentEgypt · 21/05/2015 09:11

Is thing going to just go into Tory bashing for cuts that haven't been announced?

The only one HB really helps is private landlords. Much better uses of the billions spent here than in private peoples pockets, like building a few million homes.

Anyway this was about cuts you'd like to see.

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meglet · 21/05/2015 09:12

thefairy I totted up that we've got another 250 weeks of this to go yet Sad . then another 5 yrs if Boris gets in.

Misslgl88 · 21/05/2015 09:14

I'd like to see tax loopholes closes, you want to trade here you pay taxes like everyone else. MPs taking a pay cut/no wage rise (still bitter from having no pay rise as an nhs worker while they took an 11% rise Angry). Pointless things like this God knows how many billion railway line especially when the nhs is in such a state. Why on earth they think it's ok to take from the most vulnerable in society while them and their friends get richer is beyond me.

0x530x610x750x630x79 · 21/05/2015 09:27

I want to see tax avoiders charged legally, not just given "yet another chance" to pay.
I don't care if it is pyrrhic victory (I heard a lady on the news saying it costs millions to take these cases to court and then they don't get paid), maybe it will make the buggers think before they do it again.
I want MP's pensions cut.

LurkingHusband · 21/05/2015 09:55

The one thing people need to bear in mind is that "cuts" is not a synonym for "savings".

morethanpotatoprints · 21/05/2015 10:01

Yes, tax evaders need to be prosecuted. Nothing you can do about tax avoidance this is legal.
Bankers prosecuted for the mess they made.
No cuts to welfare, especially those recently hit so far.
Fewer families needing food banks.
No sanctions, these are bloody ridiculous.

Superexcited · 21/05/2015 10:04

Cuts to housing benefit just means that people who rely on benefits have to move to cheaper areas which might mean the children leaving their schools and the family leaving their support network.
I don't want to see large areas being the preserve of the rich and therefore I am against housing benefit cuts, with the exception of extreme examples.

0x530x610x750x630x79 · 21/05/2015 10:08

Yes, tax evaders need to be prosecuted. Nothing you can do about tax avoidance this is legal.
damn i always get the wrong word

26Point2Miles · 21/05/2015 10:09

I think pensioners benefits need looking into,though I believe they are protected. means tested maybe.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 21/05/2015 10:12

They've already cut housing benefit, almost as soon as they got in last time. It's done fuck all to cost of renting and just means that people can't afford to rent privately and are defaulting on rent. Which in turn makes it harder for people who are on hb either partially or fully to find places to rent because no one will rent to them.

Not sure if you're not very well informed of just being a bit goady here tbh.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 21/05/2015 10:30

Having just had a quick look online and in the local paper, there are precisely 0 rooms to rent for the lha for a single person under 35 in my area. Even the one property that does say it accepts dss tenants is £20 a week more than the maximum the la will pay. So that's been a successful policy in bringing down rents.

Samcro · 21/05/2015 10:30

i like to see a cut in shite threads like these.

agentEgypt · 21/05/2015 10:39

You don't agree with someone so therefore they must be uninformed?

Are you saying HB is perfect in each and every way?

It only helps those at the bottom, skews the whole market and creates depemdancy.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 21/05/2015 10:46

No I'm saying you are uninformed because because if you were you would have known that your suggestion had already been carried out for the reasons you wanted it to be and it didn't work. It still isn't going to have the desired effect if you do it again.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 21/05/2015 10:47

I'd like to see them take from people who have alot and stop snatching out of the mouths of people who have next to nothing.

They seem to forget. Without the poorer classes, They'd have to start doing shit for themselves.