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To ask why you are worried about a Tory government?

144 replies

NolanThorne · 10/05/2015 23:14

Genuinely interested. I'm not British and didn't vote. My husband a FIL are saying this is the first time in a long time they are NOT worried about the UK. If you are worried, why specifically?

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DixieNormas · 11/05/2015 00:44

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morage · 11/05/2015 00:44

Lots of other countries have legal written constitutions. We don't have one.

ramanoop · 11/05/2015 00:45

Labour also seemed to be really anti-business. What with all the anti-bank talk. For someone who actually has a job with an international company, that really worried me.

ramanoop · 11/05/2015 00:47

Conservatives seem mainly to be focused on the upper middle class. And I'm not upper middle class. More middle-middle. But at least that's not that far away. At least that's something I can aspire to. Labour just doesn't offer me anything positive whatsoever. Except the promise that I might lose my job if the come down hard on my employer, or that if I do somehow get lucky and become rich, I'll be taxed through the nose.

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 00:48

And as someone who actually has (for now) a job in the public sector, this government really worry me.

ramanoop · 11/05/2015 00:48

And sure, the conservatives didn't either. But if Labour had actually committed to a plan on how they would improve housing, they'd have my vote. And countless others. But they seemed to forget about us.

lottiegarbanzo · 11/05/2015 00:49

We don't have a written constitution. Not the same as not having one. But yes, the NHS can and already is being privatised.

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 00:50

I also include myself in the middle ground of people who want to continue to work hard and do a good job that benefits other people as well as myself. It's all very sad and divisive.

Whiskwarrior · 11/05/2015 00:50

Nice thread OP.

Except your really nasty contribution to another thread about Conservatives shows you are actually completely aware of why people are scared, and also exactly what you think of the poor in this country.

Quote from the OP: I'm sick of seeing the "poor" with designer clothing and handbags and going on lavish holidays that I have to work my ass off to afford. Hopefully the "poor" will now have to get off their lazy asses and get a job while those who actually require benefits get them.

Nice Hmm

So why have you started this thread OP, when you've been on another thread bitching about the poor?

Bursarymum · 11/05/2015 00:51

Ramanoop is right, I would say. Peter Mandelson was saying the same thing on the radio this afternoon. It was a mistake for them to ditch New Labour.

ramanoop · 11/05/2015 00:51

Labour also didn't really seem to have a plan for economic growth. It was more just telling us how they were going to put new fancy bright red buckets under the leaking roof. I'm not sure the conservatives' one will work, but at least they have a plan. At least they are trying to fix the roof, even if the carpet gets a bit wet when they are up there.

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 00:52

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Bursarymum · 11/05/2015 00:53

Ed Miliband was always an unelectable leader. He seems like a nice person but he just isn't credible as PM and I say that as a supporter.

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 00:54

That's in response/agreement with Whisk's post. I'm sure there's a word for it like bereavement porn or something but it slips my mind at the moment so cunt will have to do.

Whiskwarrior · 11/05/2015 00:55

Indeed, NC.

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 00:57

I agree Bursary. I also think it's well past time for electoral reform but if it isn't in politicians' best interests they just won't do it.

OrangeVase · 11/05/2015 01:02

Still again the Labour V Conservative demons v devils polarisation.

There is good an bad in both - and neither party was really clear about the future. The way our government works, whilst better than many, nevertheless engenders this type of fear politics.

I think the Conservatives will do lots of things which will harm the country, especially the poor.

BUT I think Labour government did that also. Uncontrolled immigration benefitted big business, (endless supplies of cheap labour and increased numbers of consumers), and hurt the poor, ( increased pressure on jobs, school places, housing etc).

Most governments screw the poor in someway. Because they are poor. (Sorry , cynical)

OrangeVase · 11/05/2015 01:05

PS - just realised it is 1am and I have work in the morning. What am I doing on here!!!???? Grin

NCTimeAgain · 11/05/2015 01:07

Worrying and can't sleepSmile. Same as me.

GlitterBelle · 11/05/2015 02:49

On a personal note - I'm terrified about my care withdrawn, that I had to fight tooth and nail to get so I can have help to get out of bed, dress and have meals. I'm worried my wheelchair will break as it will not be replaced now due to cuts already taken place, so I will be completely housebound. I'm worried my benefits will be cut which pay for treatments the NHS doesn't cover, and give me some quality of life. I'm worried my adapted car will be removed, and I will no longer be able to reach my GP and hospital, and other medical establishments as public transportation isn't an option.

One cut to any benefit will see my carefully put together existence crumble, as I just about manage to cover the bills, but any less and I'm totally fucked.

On a wider note I'm worried about the stress and anxiety many people with disabilities are under, and the coming cuts to carers. I'm worried about the cuts to young people that are coming (18-25). Many people can't afford to pay for their children until they are 25 and there are so many circumstances where they don't have family to support them, and unemployment is at its highest in this age group.

My local hospital is in utter shambles, possibly one of the worst in the country. This has happened over the last five years, and the coming cuts to nursing staff will hit them hard.

I'm embarrassed and ashamed my country will likely opt out of the Human Rights Act.

marshmallowpies · 11/05/2015 03:34

The very first leaked policy announcement- before the polls had even shut - was about withdrawing funding for job seeking support for disabled people. That's help for disabled people who actually can work and actively want to, and they want to take it away. To attack the most vulnerable seems such a cruel and unnecessary thing to do.

Ditto the bedroom tax - forcing people to pay the tax when the government won't provide alternative accommodation - you're creating a poverty trap right there! 'You need to move to a 2 bed flat instead of your 3 bed home. There aren't any 2 bed flats available, you say? Waiting list is donkeys years long? Never mind, pay up!'

The idea that perhaps I might personally be better off under the Tories is not a priority for me. I would far rather see my money spent on helping those less well off than me. I don't have any understanding of the 'I'm alright jack' attitude - I I would always vote with a view to what will benefit the least well off and most vulnerable, not what will benefit me.

However from reading these threads I realise that a lot of people seem to truly believe the Tories will benefit everyone (or at least a majority) in the long run, if the economy does slowly improve. I don't agree, but I do appreciate that for some people that sentiment is genuine.

I suppose I just feel that - from everything I've read on here & elsewhere- it's easier than you think to fall through the cracks. To suddenly find yourself ill, or disabled, or redundant, and suddenly the world becomes a different place.

Coyoacan · 11/05/2015 03:48

I don't live in the UK, thank God, but if they cut back on benefits more it is going to be so much harder for women with children to leave abusive relationships.

There are also all kinds of psychological reasons why people resist leaving an abusive relationship, but what will we be able to say to a woman who wants to leave but knows that there is a very real risk of being homeless and her children going hungry?

BoneyBackJefferson · 11/05/2015 06:55

messing with education with no research to back up changes.
Privatisation of the NHS.
Removing benefits form those that need it most.
removal of TTIP.
Human rights charter being removed and replaced with a bill of rights.

DioneTheDiabolist · 11/05/2015 09:47

The referendum on leaving the EU. There will be massive job losses if we go and I think that this is a huge threat to the union of the UK.

irretating · 11/05/2015 10:25

Most of the above, and the following.

Because if 18-24 year olds are no longer allowed to claim HB or JSA, I'm expecting to see an increase in the numbers of people within this age group using sex to pay for the necessities of living.

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