To wonder where all the Tory voters are?

[AtSea1979]

All I've seen all day is messages about how disastrous the Tories carry on is.
Personally I don't see the problem (I didn't vote as recently moved house and didn't register in time).
But as far as I can see, Tories increased personal tax allowance so I'm better off and has at least cut the redicilous amount of benefits people are getting, which means I'm worse off as a working single parent but I've been saying for years how crazy it is the amount of money I've been given for getting myself pregnant and having to change my career. I have a much bigger disposable income than couples I know as my rent, council tax and childcare is paid.
However, Tories got most votes. But I'm wondering where they all are as it seems like everyone is against it.

Op you're not an idiot!

You're asking quite reasonable questions and there's a lot to think about.

Yes crumpet, one in three of the two in three voted Tory.

Do you think we should count all the people who didn't vote as labour? Because they are all lazy benefit scroungers who can't be bothered getting out of bed even to vote?

They are more likely to be people in areas that are hugely one side or the other, so a single vote wouldn't make much of a difference.

Upthread I meant to say all of the stats are mad! Not made

We are all in our enormous Georgian mansions counting our money and sparkly shiny things and punching kittens.

HTH.

I worked increased hours and it took us over the threshold. It doesn't matter, I just do some extra shifts.

I hope the child benefit stays. Ds1's father doesn't pay child support, so I'd struggle without CB.

No I don't think that Mutton. Did someone suggest that?

Op I just saw this on Twitter and thought it was interesting:

How many votes on average it took to elect an MP, as of 11am today. Via @electoralreform

SNP 26k
CON 34k
LAB 40k
LD 291k
GRN 1.1m
UKIP 3.8m

So I don't understand your point about the turnout percentage, count you explain?

Could you explain?

AtSea

You are about to lose that crazy money you are being paid for getting yourself pregnant, along with lots of other people who are going lo lose their crazy money.
I hear childcare is to be cut for some, will you still qualify for UC?

Hi mutton. I'm interpreting op's question as 'why did the Tories win? I didn't think there are many of them! I don't know any!' Im paraphrasing obviously but I've seen the same thing said in slightly different ways a lot today

I don't really have a point per se.

But I'm just trying to break it down a bit

The Tories have not got a majority today because a majority of people voted for them

They have not got a majority even because a majority of those that actually voted voted for them

So I'm just illustrating for the op that it doesn't take 'most' people to get a majority gov, or even 'most' voters

'Twas ever thus though

I don't have a heap of stats on everything but will certainly seek them out because I'm really interested in what has happened today, and how, and in electoral reform and all sorts

Yeah I saw that earlier, totally baffled by it and don't understand how that is possible and how they can do that. Although I'm not sure I want UKIP to have more seats (but don't know enough about them to have a strong opinion on that).

Oh I didn't know I was about to lose the money, I best get saving now then. Was thinking of moving to a bigger house but I'm guessing tying myself in to more rent wouldn't be a good move.

Ah, okay, got you crumpet.

I'm interested by stats and so I focused on the results.

Get this - more people voted for UKIP than for both the SNP and libdems put together! (Thank god).

By thank god, I mean thank god we don't have pr!

AtSea

I may just be pessimistic but can't see anybody having more than they need.
Or for that matter, what they need.
I have lived through s few Conservative govs, I know what's coming

Only one in four of those who voted, voted Tory, no?

And only just over half of people voted, so that makes just one in eight total people who voted Tory.

No, that is wrong,

over a third of voters voted tory.

A third of those registered to vote didn't vote at all.

that make two thirds of the electorate who either actively wanted tory, or didn't mind them.

No that's not right Charis. Both your facts are correct but your extrapolation at the end doesn't follow. You can't assume that the third of people who didn't vote didn't mind, particularly as there was no indication in the polls of a Tory majority. Plus with the deliberately skewed constituency boundaries which favour the Tories, in a lot of places people feel so disenfranchised by living in an ultra safe seat that they just don't bother.

It's a 1/3 of 2/3 who wanted Tory, not 2/3.
Say the electorate was 1,000,000.
660,000 voted. Of those, 1/3 or 220,000 voted Tory, leaving 780,000 people who didn't or didn't state a preference.
This is why the FPTP system is completely screwed up.
Also just wanted to point out to OP, the increase in personal tax allowance was not the Tories, it was a libdem policy, implemented as part of the coalition agreement. Of course, as soon as it is apparent that it's popular, the Tories are happy to claim credit for it, same as with the minimum wage which was introduced by Labour.

The majority of the electorate did not vote against the tories, there is no way round that, I'm afraid,

Us Tory supporters are out working towards our aspirations and meeting our ambitions, rather than sitting around on forums moaning how unfair it all is and how we should all be getting more, not less free hand outs from people who are out doing my first point.

PS I don't think that really but I thought I would join in with the intellectual debate by stereotyping people who don't share my political views

Empress constiturncey boundaries do not favour the Tories! For years, when Labour dominated Scotland, it took many fewer votes to elect a Labour MP. Scotland is massively over-represented, partly because of trying to get the balance of physical area v population, but it had never been satisfactorily tackled.

OP no one is forcing you to claim housing benefit and council tax benefit, if you reckon you can manage without I'm sure your local authority would be delighted. It'll give you practice for what is coming.

I know exactly where they are. They are where I live and they are keeping quiet because labour supporters seem to have the most to say and are saying how awful the conservatives are. I find labour supporters terrifying. I voted conservative because our local constituency is conservative and do a bloody good job.

For me it is a case of the best of a bad lot. The conservatives are not good and David Cameron is like a big blancmange but I can't really take labour that seriously. On top of which, the country is in debt and when in debt it is a really bad idea to spend money that you don't have - I hear labour talking about borrowing and it scares me.

Tories increased personal tax allowance

Lib Dem policy.