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to ask who you will be voting for tomorrow?

591 replies

lollyloll · 06/05/2015 11:33

Ex Lib-Dem voter and I will probably be voting Green even though they haven't a hope in hell of getting in where I live. There are no parties that represent me 100% and I feel like the Greens are offering a lot of fresh polices (as well as quite a few crazy ones) but I am ready for change.

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UnoPan · 06/05/2015 23:18

No-one needs a zero hour contract. A flexible employers response is what is needed. These 'contracts' become exclusive, so even IF there is no work at 9am with one employer, people cannot take a days work with someone else in case something comes up.
They are generally an insult.

Frostox · 06/05/2015 23:19

Ooh, OR when the employer is the only one with the right not to dish out hours - my BiL was on a zero hours contract for a while where the terms were that the employer had no obligation at all to give him any hours at all, but if they did give him hours he had to take them or they wouldn't bother offering any more...

Frostox · 06/05/2015 23:19

Yeah, I agree uno

Aermingers · 06/05/2015 23:20

I think it's interesting that a lot of people are saying they'll be worse off but vote Labour. They think they're doing something good for 'the poor', but actually if you were poor but on low wages rather than benefits life became monumentally shitter under the last Labour government.

UnoPan · 06/05/2015 23:21

Aer that last post has no evidence base on this thread, or in RL.

IndiansInTheLobby · 06/05/2015 23:25

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 06/05/2015 23:27

Labour.

Chchchchanging · 06/05/2015 23:32

Blue
To many changes need stability
We need a leader recognise able on an international stage- clegg and balls don't have any gravitas
I don't believe any party will look after I'll and disabled any better it's all smoke and mirrors
Labour haveno substance to their business policies
Green would be a disaster for our rural community
Ukip are a joke
We need a value on family units and incentivising work
As a full time working family just over cb threshold we appeal to no parties because apparently we so rich we're in same category as those in 100k

MargoReadbetter · 06/05/2015 23:33

The point is that you can't make a living out of zero hours. Only pocket money for a student, as per pp's post, or a second income for someone with a main job. Pin money. In 2015, no security, no paid holidays etc. And no doubt some tax advantages for the employer.

SoonToBeSix · 06/05/2015 23:38

Labour, do people really believe Conservatives will stabilise the economy? I don't know how people can sleep at night supporting a party which treats the poor, disabled and vulnerable in our country in such a despicable manner.

UnoPan · 06/05/2015 23:40

Aer...read? AS was joking...there is evidence of this as people in the audience laughed.....okay?
Nicola Sturgeon has ambitions. Doesn't mean they will be fulfilled. Ed Milliband has already said so. Repeatedly.

Night all.

Aermingers · 06/05/2015 23:42

It was a gag that was based on a truth. And Nicola Sturgeon will form a coalition with Labour if they win. The idea that Ed Miliband would turn down the chance to be Prime Minister on the basis of some moral principle about the SNP is laughable frankly.

UnoPan · 06/05/2015 23:49

tbh I do hope for a Lab victory OR a Lab/SNP arrangement. It's very possible.

But anything to keep the bastard Tories out.

Here's hoping.

IWantToGoToMars · 07/05/2015 00:18

Labour for me and my husband, other than once or twice I've always voted labour. Even more important this election as my previously very safe labour area is now looking like it may go to the SNP, but it's going to be close!

muminhants · 07/05/2015 08:12

Zero hours contracts are not good for people who need to actually earn a living. It's abhorrent that the supermarkets etc are going down that route. I don't have a problem with having basic fixed hours and people may be asked to cover extra hours (and be free to refuse) but expecting everyone to work on a zero hours basis is taking the mickey.

However, I worked in a library for a while and we had casual staff who would come in and cover sick leave or holidays etc. I guess they were on zero hours contracts. But they could refuse hours at any time, and were doing it for pocket money. You could say that the library should have employed enough staff to ensure that there were always enough people to cover, but in the real world we know that the public sector is very constrained with its finances.

I don't really know what the answer is, but those ladies would have been upset to lose their irregular pocket money.

As for this The idea that Ed Miliband would turn down the chance to be Prime Minister on the basis of some moral principle about the SNP is laughable frankly.

I totally agree

NutellaOnCrumpets · 07/05/2015 08:34

I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. Did an online survey thing and it said I should vote Lib Dem but they seem so wishy washy and I don't like Nick Clegg!

thegreylady · 07/05/2015 08:41

Green I have voted Labour for 50 years but I can't vote for Milliband. Do will vote Conservative and this is a very safe Conservative seat.

yolofish · 07/05/2015 08:52

Conservative, albeit reluctantly.

I really dont trust Labour on the economy; or the fact that as someone said upthread, Milliband will suddenly lose any principles when no. 10 is in his sights and Nicola Sturgeon is the kingmaker.

Secondly, I cannot see Milliband as a world statesman on the same stage as Obama, Merkel et al.

DD1 gets her first vote today - exciting times!

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 07/05/2015 10:33

The thing that really infuriates me about this zero hours contract farce.
Is that David Cameron sat infront of Jeremy Paxman not so long and admitted himself that he couldn't live on one. Yet the hypocrite dictates that the general public should do or if they refuse the position their only means of income is taken away via a sanction.
No one can survive on zero hours contract not knowing from one day to the next if they can pay their bills.

prepperpig · 07/05/2015 11:15

Zero hours contracts are just casual work contracts. They've been around for donkeys years as has the concept of being a casual/temporary worker.

It's been jumped on as a political issue when their use was also prevalent during the labour government. There has been an increase in their use due partly to the fact that the economy is picking up and so there is more work to go around but there is not yet enough business confidence to take on permanent staff (and partly because of the protectionist agency work regs which has meant a shift away from using agency workers and a shift towards having an internal bank of casuals).

I don't draft any more casual/zero hours contracts today than I did ten years ago (and its my job to draft employment contracts)

HesterShaw · 07/05/2015 11:17

Do we need a world statesman on the same stage as Merkel and Obama though every time though?

Remember Churchill was defeated in a landslide Labour victory by Atlee, a very modest normal sort of chap. Major succeeded Thatcher because the Tories were sick of her ego and her posturing.

TooManyHouseGuests · 07/05/2015 11:21

I just voted Conservative. I don't feel passionate about them at all. I think they will do the least harm.

It's quite possible that I would have voted differently, if it had been David Miliband rather than Ed. I found him to be more moderate and more mature. I think Ed is an unreconstructed Marxist underneath it all. And a hypocritical one too. Redistribution for us, £2M house with two kitchens and no inheritance tax for him!

HesterShaw · 07/05/2015 11:33

Labour should be kicking themselves. They were handed a giant opportunity on a plate in the last five years. Instead they have squandered their support in Scotland and chosen the wrong brother simply because the unions thought they'd be able to manipulate him more easily.

I have no beef against Ed Miliband. The press's crucifixion of him in the last few weeks has been absolutely criminal. But they would have done better with David.

Fannyannieanne · 07/05/2015 11:39

Agreed Hester.

I would be considerably more blase about a Labour win with David at the helm.